[HPforGrownups] Voldemort's Wand

[Carol Bainbridge]

No: HPFGUIDX 47390

Carol wrote:
> > Lucius is the one who picks up Voldemort's wand after the curse
> > backfires.

Oryomai replied:
>The only problem I have with this scenario (which is very wicked *grins*) is
>that Lucius would have to have been at the Potter house.  I don't believe he
>was there.  The only people we know for sure were at the Potter house were:
>Harry, Sirius, and Hagrid.

That's true.  Those three are the only ones we know for sure were at the 
Potters -- yet.  We have 3 books to go and I'm really convinced that we're 
going to find that Snape and Lucius were at the Potters (A theory I've 
decided to call SLAP -- Snape-Lucius At Potters).  I outlined that theory 
earlier.

>1. Harry: well, I *sincerely* doubt Harry took the wand.

No question.  Even if he DID take it, how on earth did it get to LV again?

>2. Sirius: now...I see this as possible.  If he got to the Potter house, saw
>Lily and James, and then picked up the wand; he could've went after Peter.
>In his blind fury, Sirius was most likely going to A.K. him, and if I were
>going to use A.K., I wouldn't use my own wand - the MOM could know.  Sirius
>could've taken LV's wand and tried to kill Peter.  When Peter blew up the
>street, he could've taken LV's wand and hid it and he could've went to get it
>after PoA.

I don't see how this could work.  For one thing, the spell he would have 
used to try to kill Peter would have come out in the graveyard scene at the 
end of GoF.  Also, there was no time for Sirius to take the wand anywhere 
to hide it.  He was caught almost immediately afterwards.  And even if he 
did by some strange method find time to hide the wand, how did it get back 
to LV?

>3. Hagrid: again, possible.  If, when he got to the Potter house, he saw the
>wand, he could've taken it.  He would've had no way of knowing whose wand it
>was: it could've been James', Lily's, or LV's.  He takes it and keeps it at
>his hut - not using it, just keeping it around.  Why?  Not sure yet.  I'm
>working on it.

This would be the most plausible.  However, I don't believe Hagrid would 
have taken a wand at this point.  I agree that Hagrid would not have known 
whose wand it was, but that's a major part of the reason I don't believe he 
would have taken it.  While I think it is perfectly in character for Hagrid 
to take something or do something when he doesn't think it can really do 
any harm, I don't think Hagrid would think that taking a wand at the 
Potters' demolished house after they were murdered was a harmless thing to 
do.  Not for a souvenir, not for anything.

>When Pettigrew hides in Hagrid's hut in PoA, he recognizes the
>wand, takes it, and hides it in the forest.  Hagrid can't say anything
>because then he would have to admit he had taken the wand.

Now THAT I agree with.  But then that's exactly what I think happened -- 
except that I think Hagrid got the wand at Knockturn Alley.  He may have 
wanted one after he was cleared at the end of CoS, but he didn't want to go 
to Olivander's.  Or maybe he hadn't been told yet that he could have one, 
but just wanted to get one for when he was allowed to use magic again.  No 
harm in that right?  I can just hear Hagrid saying that.

>Apparently, there are alot of ways that LV's wand could've gotten back to
>him.

You know, I could never figure out how the wand got to him.  I didn't think 
there were that many possibilities.  Something would make sense at one 
point, but not at another.