The Ginny Weasley Quotient
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Wed Oct 2 15:51:02 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 44801
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Judy M. Ellis" <penumbra10 at y...>
wrote:
>
> What bothers me about Ginny is her nearly total self-
> absorbsion. It is natural for young adolescents to strongly
focus on themselves, but Ginny's is unnatural. When she is not
being self- absorbed, she is obscessing over Harry. JKR uses
Tom Riddle's ranting soliloquy on how he managed to escape
the diary to reveal nformation about Ginny Harry could not
possibly have otherwise been
> privy to:
>
> "Little Ginny's been writing in it for months and months, telling
me all her pitiful woes--how her brothers tease her, how she
had to come to school in secondhand robes and how" --
Riddle's eyes
> glinted -- "how she didn't think the famous, good, great Harry
> Potter would ever like her..." Cos Ch. 7. Riddle also talks
about her pouring out her deepest fears and her darkest secrets
--her
> soul, which caused Riddle to grow stronger.
>
> These sound like the normal things that would trouble an
11-year-old except for 'deepest fears'and 'darkest secrets.'
don't know about anyone else, but my "darkest secrets" at age
11 were I liked a boy who sat two seats over and I'd started my
cycle. Even taking into consideration that Voldemort is the King
of Melodrama, that statement seems strange.<<
But as you say, Riddle's the King of Melodrama and he's a
master manipulator too. I don't suppose Ginny's secrets were
any deeper or darker than yours, or mine...but it would have been
very easy to make *me* believe, at age eleven or even older, that
the perfectly normal but very new and unfamiliar adolescent
feelings I was having were something to be ashamed of.
And even Harry at age fourteen is so self-conscious that he
dreads anyone finding out how he feels about Cho, and thinks it
would sound melodramatic to tell Ron that someone is trying to
kill him. (That's often overlooked, BTW. Harry *did* lie to Ron.)
>> Then consider her rescue: We know that
Harry was very dirty and covered in blood as well because JKR
says so. Harry runs over to her and attempts to revive her. She
is disoriented at first then tries to explain what had happened to
her. She asks how he managed to kill the Basilisk, then cries
about the possibility of being expelled, but she never once asks
if he is hurt or manages a stammering thank you, even after she
is safe with her parents and absolved. Don't you find that the
least bit odd? <<
Not really. How do you thank someone for something like that?
Especially at age eleven. I don't recall that Hermione ever
thanked the boys for saving her from the Troll, or that Harry ever
thanked Snape or Hermione for saving him from Quirrell's curse
or Hagrid for rescuing him from the Dursleys or Dumbledore for
saving him from Voldemort in the end.
If she is the chatterbox Ron says
> she is, and brave enough to be sorted into Gryffindor, why not
> stammer, stumble and mumble her way through asking Harry
to take her to the Yule Ball as Harry did Cho and Ron did Fleur?
Because she was a third year. She couldn't invite *anyone* to the
ball. It'd be pretty pushy to ask Harry or anyone else to invite her
to a function she wouldn't otherwise be entitled to attend.
Pippin
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