[HPforGrownups] Re: Harry's Patronus/ Mrs. Weasley/ Black and Snape

[Richelle Votaw]

No: HPFGUIDX 44897

Marina writes:

> This may be excessively nitpicky of me, but I must point out that if
> the Patronus looks like the caster's father, then it's not "unique
> to the wizard who conjures it" -- all the Weasley kids would have
> the same Patronus, for example.

Well, that all depends.  Suppose for a moment that the Patronus appears as
your father from a specific time in the past, when he was particularly
protective.  Bill, for example, may remember his father twenty years ago
protecting him from something as a child.  Ginny, on the other hand, may
remember her father jumping Lucius Malfoy at Flourish & Blotts.  Same
father, but still unique to the wizard conjuring because he's changed so
much over twenty years, I'm sure.  Still, it could also take the form of
someone or something you have been protected by in the past.  Which could
perhaps mean that James had specifically taken the stag form to protect
Harry at some time.  But then I'm meandering off topic, I suppose!

GulPlum/Richard writes:

> What I had meant to say was that the *form* of the Patronus was
> unidentified. If we'd had been given an idea, then we may have some
grounds
> on which to determine what surprised Dumbledore about the form of Harry's.
> Until JKR gives us more details, I'm sticking with my "father-like"
> analogy. :-) Yes, I know someone suggested the Weasleys as a counter to
the
> statement that "everyone's Patronus is unique", and right now I don't have
> an explanation, but I'm working on it. :-)

Well, there's one above for you to start on. :)  Second, as for Dumbledore's
silver thing shooting from the wand, it could be a patronus, or something
else?  Lupin does say "There are--certain *defenses* one can use."  Emphasis
added, as defenses is plural implying there's more than one way to skin a
cat, or chase off a dementor. :)

Sherry (who wasn't sure if she was defending or attacking Molly) :) writes:

> from their poverty.  But I would like to see Molly at least pay attention
to
> little things she can do for each child that don't cost extra.  These are
the
> little things that enrich the lives of poor kids (indeed, *all* kids), and
that
> they remember as adults - we never had anything, but Mom always knew my
> favorite color.

That's another thing that always bothered me.  Ron clearly hates maroon.
Yet he gets a maroon sweater every year.  Harry, on the other hand, gets
something different every year.  Once it's green, one year it's red with a
gold lion, and then he even gets one with a dragon after the first task.
She takes extra effort to make Harry's "special."  Sure, he only gets a
tissue or toothpick from the Dursleys, but what else does Ron get?  Not much
either.  Harry finally gives him a present in GoF, Hermione generally gives
them both something, but that's about it.  Why not at least try to make the
sweater a color he'll like?

bugaloo37 writes:

> I think you are right on target.  Their tempers are similar.  IMO,
> the loathing they have for each other must be based on something
> deeper than that childhood prank- but of course, I could be wrong.
> Childhood hurts can run very deep.  And when one has a tendency
> to "hold" onto resentments-its easy to  keep the hurt fresh in your
> mind.

Childhood prank?  It was practically attempted murder.  They were sixteen.
If it hadn't been for James and Snape had been killed, by Muggle law Sirius
could have been tried for manslaughter as an adult.  I think there's
something further back that fuels this hatred, something pre-Hogwarts even.
Just can't put my finger on it.

Richelle





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