[HPforGrownups] Re: Magical protection -- last words on Fidelius
GulPlum
hpfgu at plum.cream.org
Sat Oct 5 01:23:26 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 44980
At 22:29 04/10/02 +0000, pcnsc2002 wrote:
>Okay. I'll let this be my final msg on this thread (to the cheers of
>thousands!)
I suspect it may well not be. :-) I've just posted a lengthy reply to your
arguments in another sub-thread. Some of it could be construed as a reply
to this one as well, but there's one specific point I'd like to add.
>This is not what Professor Flitwick says about the Charm in Prisoner
>of Azkaban. He manifestly does not say that the Fidelius Charm hides
>people.
>
>What he says is the following:
>
>"An immensely complex spell," he said squeakily, "involving the
>magical concealment of a secret inside a single, living soul. The
>information is hidden inside the chosen person, or Secret-Keeper,
>and is henceforth impossible to find -- unless, of course, the
>Secret-Keepr chooses to divulge it." (Prisoner of Azkaban, Chapter
>ten, "The Marauder's Map" page 152.)
>
>This is his definition of the Fidelius Charm. It involves
>concealment of information, not of persons.
You missed out the next sentence he said, which is vitally important in
this conversation, because it defined the exact application of the Fidelius
in this particular instance:
"As long as the Secret-Keeper refused to speak, You-Know-Who could search
the village where Lily and James were staying for years and never find
them, not even if he had his nose pressed against their sitting room window!"
Reproducing the quote without that last sentence is akin to reducing
Animagus transformation to Transfiguration.
What that sentence adds to the equation (I'm deliberately reusing your
words) is that he manifestly states that the Fidelius Charm was used to
hide the Potters from view. Furthermore, he implies that *only* the
Secret-Keeper would be able to reveal their presence (i.e. the Potters
would not).
Now then, if its use in Harry's case was not to hide him while he's at the
Dursleys,
to what use *was* it put? What possible "information" regarding Harry would
the Fidelius Charm be used to hide, if not his presence?
>But I still am certain Fidelius was one of the charms protecting
>Harry, at least up until he attended Hogwarts.
As certain as I am that it was not? :-)
>MarEprhaim
>(sitting back, with folded arms, in Hargrid-like resolve)
--
GulPlum, taking up *exactly* the same stance. :-)
(adding that his stance probably looks more impressive, due to being not
dissimilar in size to Robbie Coltrane) :-)
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