The Ginny Weasley Quotient (some SHIP)
Penny Linsenmayer
pennylin at swbell.net
Sat Oct 5 03:44:10 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 44984
Hi --
Pippin said:
<snip imagined conversation between Ron and Hermione at breakfast the morning after the Goblet spit out Harry's name>
<<<<<Of course Hermione must've tried to tell Ron herself later,
but I can't blame Ron, who is beginning to have feelings for
Hermione, for feeling hurt that Harry felt he could confide in
Hermione but not in him. But he can't admit that. Of course Ron
was being a silly prat. But so was Harry.>>>>>>>>>>
Er ... I'm not following why it's relevant to your point that Ron is beginning to have feelings for Hermione. Even if he wasn't at all romantically interested in Hermione, would he not be similarly hurt by Harry's ability to confide in her and not him? I don't dispute your point, but that bit seemed odd to me. :--)
I said:
>>Actually, Harry got teased because Ron was apparently
present when said Hufflepuff girl asked Harry to the Ball (he was
definitely present when the 5th year asked Harry a few days
later). I strongly suspect if Ginny *had* worked up the courage to
ask Harry to the Ball, she'd have done so in private, and there
would have been no teasing of either of them because noone
would have been privy to it. <<
Pippin made a L.O.O.N. point thusly:
Actually, Harry got teased because, just as Ron had predicted,
"...they'll be queuing up to go with you.">>>>>>>>>
Counter-L.O.O.N. point:
I suggest that actually we don't know the precise reason why Harry was being teased, but I think it might be closer to my reasoning than what you suggest. Here's the excerpt:
***********************
A curly-haired third-year Hufflepuff girl to whom Harry had never sponken in his life asked him to go to the ball with her the very next day. Harry was so taken aback he said 'no' before he'd even stopped to consider the matter. The girl walked off looking rather hurt, and Harry had to endure Dean's, Seamus' and Ron's taunts about her all through History of Magic. The following day, two more girls asked him, a second-year and (to his horror) a fifth-year who loked as though she might knock him out if he refused.
"She was quite good-looking," said Ron fairly, after he'd stopped laughing.
*********************
Sounds to me like Ron, Seamus and Dean overheard the 3rd year asking Harry out and teased him about her. Sounds to me like Ron heard the 5th year asking Harry out too.
It also sounds to me like (a) it's not uncommon for girls to ask out boys, and (b) that younger students certainly could ask older ones to be their dates (Harry was not only asked by that 3rd year, but also a 2nd year).
Pippin again:
<<<<<<<<You know, I think that scene in the Common Room could be the first time that Ginny realizes that Harry isn't The Boy Who Lived but rather a young man who's just as wretched with this whole boy-girl business as she is. That could be a turning point for her...we don't see her blushing and
giggling over Harry after that, do we?>>>>>>>>
No, we don't see her giggling over Harry after that. We don't see her at all after that. <g> Actually, we see her *once* more after that IIRC, but it's not as though Ginny has any appearances or speaking role for the last *half* of GoF. After the Yule Ball where she is wincing for her poor toes while dancing with Neville, I don't think we see or hear anything about Ginny even once. I stand ready for some L.O.O.N. to point out that I'm wrong ..... which is fine. But, we certainly don't see anything noteworthy of Ginny after the Yule Ball, that's for sure. :--)
<<<<<<Erm, you're asking why JKR wouldn't be obvious? She hasn't
made a secret of Ron's interest in Hermione, true, but we
certainly don't know the depth of Hermione's feelings about
Krum. We know that Krum has strong feelings for Hermione, but
just as in Ginny's case we don't know very much about what sort
of person he is. We know all about what Harry's like, but we
don't know whether he could ever feel anything for Hermione
besides friendship. JKR's narrative makes things clear only on
one side of a potential pairing.>>>>>>>>
My point exactly. We only know for certain the feelings of one side of any given potential romance pairing. Er ... yes. :::whistles something that sounds suspiciously like Farmer in the Dell:::: :--)
Penny
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