[HPforGrownups] Re: Magical Protection

[Christopher Nuttall]

No: HPFGUIDX 44994

If all the Fidelius charm does is hide information, than its practically useless.  If all peter had was a location, Voldemort could have found the information some other way.  It would not have provided any protection for the potters if they were discovered by accident.

I suspect that there must be far more to the Fidelius charm than we have been told.  Perhaps the potters were inside a pocket dimension or force wall that only the secret keeper could - willingly - breach.  That would keep them far more safe than just hiding where they are.  

Chris
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: marephraim 
  To: HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 2:47 AM
  Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: Magical Protection


  Okay. I'll let this be my final msg on this thread (to the cheers of 
  thousands!)

  In my last message I tried to contrast what is stated about the 
  Fidelius Charm in Chapter 10 of Goblet of Fire with what is stated 
  on the Harry Potter Lexicon Website.

  In her reply to this message Barb excised my comments to the 
  following:

  Actually this is not what it says in canon. It is what the Harry 
  Potter Lexicon says about it: "Complex and powerful charm that hides 
  a person or persons completely; their location is known only to 
  their designated 'Secret Keeper.'"
  (http://www.i2k.com/~svderark/lexicon/spells_f.html#Fidelius ) 

  Note that HPL states that the charm hides "a person or persons".

  This is not what Professor Flitwick says about the Charm in Prisoner 
  of Azkaban. He manifestly does not say that the Fidelius Charm hides 
  people. 

  What he says is the following:

  "An immensely complex spell," he said squeakily, "involving the 
  magical concealment of a secret inside a single, living soul. The 
  information is hidden inside the chosen person, or Secret-Keeper, 
  and is henceforth impossible to find -- unless, of course, the 
  Secret-Keepr chooses to divulge it." (Prisoner of Azkaban, Chapter 
  ten, "The Marauder's Map" page 152.)

  This is his definition of the Fidelius Charm. It involves 
  concealment of information, not of persons. 

  The antecedent of what "is henceforth impossible to find" 
  is "information."

  In the case of the Potters the information was "James and Lily are 
  living at...." 

  If the particular use of the Charm in the case of the Potters was 
  information as to their location, then as long as they stayed there 
  they were safe. 

  It says nothing about whether they would remain safe if they left 
  the house.

  It also says nothing about whether they would remain safe if they 
  passed on to others their whereabouts.

  In all other issues related to this topic in which I have differed 
  with Barb I concede.

  But I still am certain Fidelius was one of the charms protecting 
  Harry, at least up until he attended Hogwarts. 

  MarEprhaim 
  (sitting back, with folded arms, in Hargrid-like resolve)



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