The Ginny Weasley Quotient (some SHIP)
vixinalizardqueen
vixinalizardqueen at hotmail.com
Sat Oct 5 13:03:03 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 45001
Jessica:
> Nonetheless, it seems to me than anyone with a
> developed sense of reality and maturity and a genuine
> concern for Harry *as a unique individual, not a hero*
> would have had the sensibilities to take a more
> thoughtful and less self-absorbed view of Harry's
> dilemma.
I think that's an unfair dismissal of Ginny, considering she actually
showed a suprising degree of integrity by not just saying "Ok, I'll go
dump Neville, then I'll go with Harry!" She could very well have done
that, and I'm sure it would have been incredibly tempting! Imagine if
you were 13 and your favourite movie star was at your school, and
needed a date, and you were one of his last chances but you were
already taken? I think anybody (let alone a thirteen year old) would
be pretty gutted, to say the least, at this situation. I don't see how
you interpret her reactions as "self absorbed". If she really was self
absorbed, she would have done what I suggested- dump Neville in favour
of Harry.
Jessica:
> what reason does she have to actually believe Harry
> would've even considered her?
How about the fact that he is *desperate*, and Ron has just suggested
"Ginny, you can go with Harry..."? I don't think Harry is cruel enough
to just say right in front of her "no, no you're not good enough!" if
she had been free, and accepted! Plus she is, in a way, friends with
Harry...she's spent more time with him than Parvati, whom Harry ends
up taking.....Why not Ginny?! I firmly believe he would have taken her
if it weren't for Neville....he may not have liked it, but he would
have taken her!
Jessica:
> Instead, she's thrown into a misery so great that she
> immediately loses the ability to carry on a
> conversation with Ron and Harry or even be in Harry
> presence.
I also interpreted that some of Ginny's distress is due to the fact
that Ron and Harry have just been saying "who would go to the dance
with Neville?". That's actually incredibly embarrassing, and insulting
to Ginny (even though they don't realise it). How small would you feel
after hearing that your date, no matter why you're going with him, is
thought of like that?
Jessica:
> The problem with Ginny, in my mind, is that she's
> guilty of the behavior so many exhibit around Harry
> and that he abhors.
I don't think Ginny's behaviour around Harry is any worse than Harry's
behaviour around Cho Chang. What does Harry really know about Cho?
Have we ever seen him have a long, intelligent conversation with her?
Does Harry see past the fact that she's pretty, or that she's a good
Quidditch player, to her real, inner self? Not to my knowledge, but he
still has a huge crush on her, and makes, in my opinion, even more of
a fool of himself when asking her to the ball than Ginny has ever made
around Harry. Harry, at least, is used to that kind of behaviour, and
has had a conversation (admittedly, not an incredibly deep one, but
still a conversation!) with Ginny before. Cho would have just thought
Harry was a strange little 4th year when he stumbled over his words
while asking her to the ball.
The Lizard Queen. On behalf of the Ginnys of the world.
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