[HPforGrownups] Re: Application of lessons / Quirrell plot hole?
Barb P
psychic_serpent at yahoo.com
Mon Oct 7 22:56:09 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 45082
From: GulPlum <hpfgu at plum.cream.org>
>LOONy point. She doesn't transform herself in front of the >class until PoA, during a lesson on Animagi. (OT: This is a >piece of continuity the movie series is going to have to >sort out, because obviously the topic is vital
>to the third book/film, and they've already lost their
>opportunity to introduce it at the right point.)
"Bernadette M. Crumb" wrote:
Er, my daughter currently has a death grip on HPPS so I can't look it up verbatim, but when Harry and Ron were late for Transfiguration class, wasn't McGonagall in cat form on the desk when they came in? And she transformed back into human form in front of the class. It happened within the first couple of weeks of school because Harry and Ron were still getting lost trying to find their way around. She suggested turning them into a watch and a map. That, I believe is the animagus changed that Barb is referring to above, not the change at 4 Privet Drive the night they dropped Harry off with the Dursleys.
Me:
No, I wasn't referring to that because it was in the film, not the book. I was referring to the READER being introduced, at the beginning of the first book, to the idea of witches and wizards transfiguring themselves into animals. I did not mean to imply that Harry was exposed to this idea in the first book. As GulPlum correctly notes, in the books, it doesn't occur until PoA. (IIRC, there is no mention at all of Animagi in the second book.)
Ironically, one of the skills necessary for Harry to get to the Stone was Hermione's logic, which isn't taught at Hogwarts at all (which means that Quirrell was at least as logical as Snape and Hermione, as he also got past it). But then, I suppose debate and rhetoric would be considered superfluous to people who could solve an argument by whipping out their wands... ("solve" being used in a very loose way, here).
And, since one of Quirrell's specialties was supposed to be dealing with trolls (and Dumbledore knows this, as Quirrell contributed the troll to help guard the Stone), one has to wonder why Quirrell wasn't immediately suspect for letting the troll in, especially as he didn't do anything in particular to deal with it, as one would expect the resident troll-expert to do. I can't remember whether this possible plot hole has been mentioned before...
--Barb
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