Harry's innate abilities

[mitchbailey82]

No: HPFGUIDX 45095

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Melody" <Malady579 at h...> wrote:
> Michelle wrote:
> 
> >>>>I'm sure that you can inherit sports abilities, now I'm not that
> much of a sports fan (I'll get back to that) so lets take singers 
many
> offspring of singers have followed in their Dad's/Mum footsteps -
> both of John Lennons son's have released their on albums and most
> recently Ozzy Osborne's daughter has released her first single - so
> if singing can be inherited why not sport abilities? <<<
> 
> 
> Melody:
> I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to stop you there.  I completely
> disagree.  Talent is not inherited; opportunity is.  Lennon's son 
and
> Ozzie Osbourne's daughter are in "the know" that is all.  Being able
> to carry a tune is not talent.

Me:
Lennons sons by all actounts can do more than carry a tune. As for 
Ozzy's daughter I'm not a fan it's just that shes the most recent. 
While I admit that being on the inside as it were is an advantage it 
is not the be all and end all. You still need to be able to sing to 
sell the records.

> Most "talent" is from pure practice and drills
> anyway.  

Me:
I disagree I could practise until the cows come home and I would 
never be able to carry a musical note that would actually be in tune.


> Ok, my point, and tie in back to Harry Potter before the moderators
> get all hoppity, talent is not inherited musically nor in the sports
> arena.  Often the offspring of famous individuals are just in a 
better
> situation to "inherit" thier father's appointed glories.  The
> industries love money, and the children want to be great...like 
thier
> dad (or mom).

Me:
The music wouldn't sell unless they can sing poeple would soon get 
bored of them.

> One case that I can think of that inherited abilities might matter 
in
> sports in in physical abilities.  Harry did "inherit" his physical
> body from his parents.  Bone structure, physical agility, and
> metabolism all aid in sports and are completely by chance.  Sports, 
no
> matter how long you practice, often comes down to the basic: he is
> bigger and stronger than me.  So then, sport talents can be 
perceived
> as being inherited.  Though in Harry Potter's case, I think his 
talent
> on the quidditch field is far different from his father's.

Me:
Firstly: singing is all to do with the vocal chords which is a 
physical attribute.
Secondly:
As I stated in my previous post we don't know for certain what James 
talents on the Quiditch pitch were like.
 
> Oh and one last thing,
> Of the two examples you gave before, I must say that it is the 
popular
> music industry and nostalgia that gave those two kids a record deal.
> The fans of Kelly Osbourne's and Sean Lennon's respective fathers,
> especially with Lennon, want to believe that Ozzie and John can live
> forever.

Me:

What about Julian Lennon he released records to. I only talk about 
music industry because I DONT WHATCH SPORT - I could have emailed all 
my football fanatic friends who also enjoy watching cricket (like for 
these 2 sports seems to go hand in hand) and got a list but that 
would have taken too long.
I listen to quite a wide range of music and know of many children 
that have followed in their parents footsteps and also many groups 
that are made up of or contain siblings (Jackson 5, Oasis, etc. I 
afraid that genetics do come into it. I agree it is then the 
individuals choice (although there are some psychological arguements 
as to why we don't have free will, (I not going to go into them! I 
don't believe in them myself) we live our lives as if we do have free 
will so thats all that matters) as to whether they use their talent -
but first the talent has to be there in the first place and the basis 
of most talent is in some aspect at least physical. 

Michelle