[HPforGrownups] re: Harry'sStrongPoints/ Magical protection and Lily's touch

[Rita]

No: HPFGUIDX 45096




Kara wrote:
>> My opinion on the gleam in his eye was because Harry had been touched
>> by Voldemort, and survived. He had survived without his mother's
> >protection [ cut]. Because Harry has proven to be able to go up against
Voldemort, without the
> >protection, without help, and lived. And that's certainly something to
> >be triumphant about. But, I know this one has been debated
> >endlessly... so this has probably already been brought up.

 Richelle answered:


>1) This is the one I hate most of all, and really don't believe, but I'll
>get it out of the way. If Dumbledore is really a bad guy in a very good
>disguise, the triumphant gleam would mean, aha, Voldemort will triumph.
>Pathetic, that one, if you ask me, since Harry just got away again!
>However, I thought I'd throw it in and disregard it before someone else
>brings it up. :)

On this point I (Rita) have to say that it seems to me just the thing JKR
would have us think to throw us off track and to create a bit of confusion
(as if there was not enough! trying to figure out who everyone really is is
driving me crazy! I can't go much longer without reading OoP). So I would
discard this possibility. But there is anyone out there that really believes
in it being more than a chance?


>2) The fact that Dumbledore stands up so *quickly* as to startle Harry when
>he's just about to be referred to as old and tired, is interesting. Then
>walks around the desk and asks to see Harry's arm. Which implies that the
>location of the taking of blood is important. The only connection I can
>find is that this is Harry's right arm, cut in the crook of the arm, or
>elbow. It was Harry's right arm, at the elbow, broken by the Bludger (and
>deboned by Lockhart) in CoS. [cut]


I agree that there is some significance to the wound and how the blood was
taken from Harry but I don't think it could have anything to do with the 
deboning' accident. IMO it's more likely that Dumbl wants to see the wound
because it can help figuring out what kind of 'rite' Vold was performing and
what kind of strength he got from Harry; although I can't imagine what the 
symbolic' meaning of the right arm could be. It's the left arm that has a
strong symbolic meaning because it's the 'heart's arm' ( here in Italy you
wear your wedding ring on the left hand because of that reason).



>3) Now, back to the point Kara was making, that Dumbledore's triumphant
>gleam occurs at the exact time that Harry has just explained that Voldemort
>was able to and did touch him. Yet Harry is safe and sound in Dumbledore's
>office. He lived. Again. So there may be perhaps another protection over
>him besides the one his mother left. Which brings up the theory of some
>sort of experimental work James and Lily (and Harry) may have been involved
>in. Something to do with the Sorcerer's Stone and the Elixir of Life.
 [ excuse me if I cut the explanation to your theory]


This makes a bit LOTR ( and actually I got the idea thinking about the
similarities/ differences between Frodo and Harry) but here's my theory
about the other form of protection over Harry. It's not an old protection
cast over him but something he acquired the moment Vold used his blood in
the rite to 'revive' himself. Just as Harry has been touched by Evil and is
in some ways 'tainted' by it so now Vold is 'tainted' by Good and this drop
of goodness that it's now in himself will (possibly) bring about his final
downfall. This could happen in many ways, I'm not thinking about a very
commonplace 'redemption of the villain' but to something like a powerful
curse aimed at killing Harry or ' destroying the world' that doesn't work or
rebounds because not 100% of him is bent on it. Well, maybe this theory is
as common place as the redemption one , but I can't help liking it.
 R.