Voldemort and AK (was:Re: Why is AK unforgiveable)
eloiseherisson at aol.com
eloiseherisson at aol.com
Thu Oct 10 13:42:46 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 45164
In a message dated 10/10/2002 14:02:45 GMT Standard Time,
greywolf1 at jazzfree.com writes:
> Later on in that same lecture, when talking about AK, Moody mentions
> another important fact: "there is no counter-curse. Nor way of
> intercept it. Only one person is known to have survived it"
> (incidently, this is not totally true: Voldemort survived the AK too.
> It's an interesting pararell, since Harry is the boy who lived and
> Voldemort the man that didn't die).
Crouch/Moody double speak again, eh?
I'm not sure that they are exactly parallels, though it makes a nice
contrast.
Did Voldemort survive the AK?
What hit him was a rebounding AK, one moreover that had rebounded off
*Harry*, so we can't be certain that the same thing would have happened if he
had been hit straight by one.
Secondly, his body *didn't* survive the AK.
As for his soul....well, it seems to be implied that Voldemort didn't die
because he was no longer human enough to die. Granted, Hagrid is the first
person to articulate this, which doesn't give it too much credence, but I
think the implication is elsewhere as well. The Unforgivables are
specifically curses which are used on *humans* (oh - and spiders!). But you
get my drift. They're probably not designed to be effective on evil overlords
who've *improved* themselves and possibly already gone some way down the path
to immortality.
So young Barty spoke the truth again, didn't he? Harry is the only *person*,
the only fully human person, fully to have survived the AK, but inhuman
Voldmort also survived a rebound, despite his body's death.
Now, I know that could only aply >
> especifically to AK, but later we discover that they practise
> *resisting* the Imperius, never to block it. And we never hear of any
> of them practising anything against the Cruciatus.
I don't think he could have got away with actually *torturing* students in
class, though. Do you?
But I'm nit picking there, because I also belong to the 'Unforgivables are
Unblockables' school of thought.
A question that arises is, how vulnerable is Voldemort now?
*Could* an AK work on him, now he has a body again, or is he still too
inhuman?
If he *can* be AK'd, why is Harry so crucial to his defeat?
Eloise
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