DISHWASHER Objection

lucky_kari lucky_kari at yahoo.ca
Thu Oct 10 20:24:48 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 45186

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Grey Wolf" <greywolf1 at j...> wrote:
> Dumbledore didn't know when the re-embodiment would take place. From 
> Peter's comments we can tell that they were pretty much ready to use 
> the potion in the summer between years 3 and 4, but that "for reasons 
> of his own" Voldemort decided to wait for Harry to be teleported to 
> him. Between the conversation were Frank was killed and the GG 
> (Graveyard Gathering) almost a year passes. During that time, Voldemort 
> was bidding his time very close to the graveyard (and I'd imagine that 
> Nagini was even closer... I've always had the feeling that Nagini was 
> out surveilling the area before she arrives and sees Frank). 

How much of his time was spent at the Riddle House, though? He tells
Peter that they will be leaving soon, and indeed they do, going to
Crouch's house. That's where I think Voldemort was for a good deal of
time. Then, Crouch escapes, and it's no longer safe to stay there. So
where to next? 

While the Riddle House seems like a reasonable place to turn to, it's
also a dumb place to go. Dumbledore figures out that there's a
Voldemort connection there, and Voldemort should be able to figure out
that Dumbledore will make that connection. Is there anything in the
text to indicate Voldemort did go to the Riddle House after Frank
Bryce was killed? I don't have GoF with me here, but doesn't the Eagle
Owl in Harry's vision go to a large old house on a hill i.e. the
Riddle House?

Because if there is, I would say that we're back to the "Evil Overlord
Mentality" that Pip has been trying to demolish so successfully. Under
MAGIC DISHWASHER, Dumbledore may have reasons to leave Voldemort alone
at the Riddle House, but Voldemort cannot know that. 
 
> Any agent sent by Dumbledore wouldn't have been able to pass undetected 
> for such a long time. Besides, the gathering didn't necessary have to 
> happen in the graveyard: Peter could have sneaked in with a shovel, 
> take a sample and left, and any agent around wouldn't have dared follow 
> him (and if he did, he'd soon join Frank in death, whatever excuse he 
> would use). And, of course, Dumbledore cannot risk that Voldemort 
> starts asking questions about the potion. He wants him to use it by 
> making it the easiest option (as if he knew nothing about it).

Why didn't Voldemort send Peter to do just that? Again, it seems like
Evil Overlord Behaviour, gathering all his followers outside in a
Muggle graveyard, right beside the house where Dumbledore thinks he
has been to recently. 

And if Voldemort behaves like an Evil Overlord in these things, what
does that say about the rest of his behaviour in the graveyard? Is it
really as fiendishly clever as Pip so convincingly argues it is? Or is
he just an Evil Overlord flaunting the Evil Overlord Rules?

Eileen





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