[HPforGrownups] Re: DISHWASHER Objection

[GulPlum]

No: HPFGUIDX 45188

At 20:24 10/10/02 +0000, lucky_kari wrote:

>And if Voldemort behaves like an Evil Overlord in these things, what
>does that say about the rest of his behaviour in the graveyard? Is it
>really as fiendishly clever as Pip so convincingly argues it is? Or is
>he just an Evil Overlord flaunting the Evil Overlord Rules?

I'm not so sure whether Pip is all that convincing. :-) I don't have the 
time to go through MAGIC DISHWASHER (of whatever variety) and argue its 
points in turn, but my major problem with the theory with it is that in 
order to give Voldemort a reason to be a Clever Evil Overlord, it needs to 
make Dumbledore into little more than a Good Overlord (if such a stereotype 
existed).

IOW, Dumbledore manipulates the people at his command (especially Harry!) 
in a callous and methodical way which I find utterly distasteful and well 
outside the frame of the "moral compass" (was that JKR's phrase, or is it 
just mine?) he's meant to be. It also completely undermines his insistence 
on the importance of making choices - under MAGIC DISHWASHER, nobody 
actually makes any choices, they're just playing out Dumbledore's Master Plan.

If course, I can already see the DISHWASHERs' rationale to undermine that: 
Dumbledore's insistence on the importance of free choice is nothing more 
than a front, and his *actual* point is just the opposite. I can't argue 
with that reasoning other than to say that it seems just as much of a 
cop-out as the "it's all a dream" theory we were talking about a few days back.

--
GulPlum AKA Richard, who washes his own dishes without the need for magic 
or electric machinery. :-)