House assumptions

[anakinbester]

No: HPFGUIDX 45255

 

> Barb said:
> > I'm baffled.  I have no clue as to why folks regularly bring up 
the 
> > possibility that Lily or any of the Marauders might not have been 
in >
> Gryffindor.  Where are you getting this idea?

I must say I agree with you. I understand why some people might like 
to believe that they were in different houses, but that just doesn't 
make sense to me. The houses are too separated. Heck, there was a 
whole other thread on how separated the houses are. 
Now were they just casual friends than perhaps I could see it, but 
their pranking and the their finding out the Remus was a werewolf and 
all... for all that to come about, it simply makes more sense to me 
that they all lived in the same dorm. 
Yes even Peter!

Now, maybe, maybe, if James and Sirius knew each other before school, 
their friendship might have survived getting sorted into separate 
houses, but that goes against what I observed in school. There were 
friendships that deteriorated over time just from being sorted into 
separate homerooms at my school, or put on entirely separate 
schedule. 
That then begs the question, how would they have gotten to know Remus 
enough to note when he was sick? Someone had to be in the same house 
as Remus at least. 

Likewise, if Peter were the token Slytherin or Hufflepuff, well 
*grumble* I just see the urge to put Peter in another house as plain 
silliness. Peter is the example of the hard and the easy choice, and 
that not all Gryffindors are heroes and not all Slytherins are evil. 
People complain about that stereotype, and yet so many people don't 
think Peter should be in Gryffindor, which only perpetuates the 
stereotype of the houses. 

As for Hagrid's comment, he was simply stating that same stereotype. 
I read even at the time as an obvious exaggeration. Slytherin may 
have the most dark wizards out of their house, but surely they don' 
have them all. That just defies my understanding of the laws of 
probability!

So, I figured Hagrid was making an unfair generalization. Like when 
the tour guide for my college said, "All art students live at Bruce" 
Not at all, but 90% do. *shrugs*

 Sherry Garfio wrote:
> This would
> make it necessary to recruit a member from *each* house, perhaps 
even with the
> goal of defeating Voldemort, since his Reign of Terror had 
presumably begun
> while the Marauders were still in school. 

Now that's pretty ambitious for a bunch of 11 year olds (and from 
Remus's tale, I believe they had to have been forming their 
friendship in their first year) 
*L* If they were thinking like that, maybe they should all be 
Slytherin (yes, ambition can be good, and that's actually a good 
example of good ambition)
As nice as that sounds, that also seems to be based more on fanon 
characteristics as well. Sirius by no means seems that tolerant in 
the book, Remus I can't see going in on that because he'd be hard 
enough to make friends with. What you described sounds more like a 
recruitment drive, and I just can't see it forming the strength of 
bonds that the four friends seem to have (*prods Peter*)

Sherry Garfio wrote more still:
> By killing James, winning Peter over
> to his side, and having Sirius put away, Voldemort has effectively 
crushed the
> Marauders.

Well, yes that I will not argue with. I think that's one of the 
saddest ideas in the whole book. 

Sherry Garfio 
> While it does seem unlikely that members of different Houses could 
form such a
> strong bond, it seems even more unlikely that the Sorting Hat saw 
Pettigrew as
> a typical Gryffindor, 

Why, can't Peter be a Gryffindor?
For goodness sakes they get sorted when they were 11. I mean I 
probably covered this pretty thoroughly above, however, I really do 
not understand this attitude, and I think it's a pretty weak argument 
for having them all (or a few) in separate houses. 
Courage comes in all forms, and while I well not try and argue that 
Peter's been overly brave, I will point out (again) that he argued 
(kind of ) with Voldemort's plan twice, and he was scared, but he did 
it anyway, so he does have courage. 
And while I really think he's a fallen Gryffindor, why not Ravenclaw? 
Who on earth said he was stupid? We just know that Transfiguration 
probably wasn't his best subject, and he couldn't duel. 

Also, as for loyalty, I think Voldemort called it when he said Peter 
wouldn't be with him if it weren't for fear. That can be refuted by 
Peter sounding petulant in the first chapter, but he hasn't got much 
of an identity outside of being a loyal servant anymore, and 
Voldemort was denying him even that much gratification. I'd pout too 
^^

-Ani