Hogwarts Student Population/Admittance to Hogwarts
serenadust
jmmears at comcast.net
Sun Oct 13 21:43:24 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 45288
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Ali" <Ali at z...> wrote:
Presenting evidence against Kateydidnt2002's assertion that Hermione
was born in 1980:
>
> Other canonical referencing points;-
>
> Cedric is 17 when he enters the TriWizard tournament. He is also
in
> the same year (the 6th year) as the twins who don't turn 17 until
the
> following April. We are not told exactly when his birthday is,
merely
> that he "was an extremely handsome boy of around seventeen" (GoF
p67
> UK paperback edition). As this was when Harry & co meet him
before
> the Quidditch World Cup; IMO it would not be a stretch for him to
> have his birthday a couple of weeks later. I think it very
unlikely
> that Cedric was in the wrong year because he had to repeat a year.
> Firstly, this rarely happens in England (other than for GCSE &
> A'level repeats), and secondly for Cedric to be good enoough to
> represent Hogwarts he must have been the best student to enter,
and
> this is unlikely if he had failed a year and was repeating.
In addition to the evidence Ali presents above, Hermione
states, "I've heard he's a very good student - *and* he's a Prefect."
(GoF, chapter 15). There's no way Cedric Diggory was held back to
repeat a year. Even Crabbe and Goyle get promoted every year, and
they are portrayed as being extremely stupid. Marcus Flint is
probably the only student in Hogwarts history to have had to repeat,
and that was probably only in order to correct a slip-up on JKR's
part.
Also, we have Angelina Johnson as being another student to have
turned 17 shortly before Halloween in GoF, enabling her to
legitimately put her name in to enter the Triwizard Tournament.
It's true that we don't really know from canon whether she's a sixth
or seventh year student, but I've always assumed that she was in the
same year as Fred & George. We will find out for sure when book 5
comes out, because if she's still at Hogwarts then, she will be our
first confirmed example of a student being "old" for her year.
Jo Serenadust, who can't wait to see this issue put to rest in OOP
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