Peter Pettigrew Is Ever So Brave (was House assumptions)
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skelkins at attbi.com
Sun Oct 13 23:29:38 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 45291
Ani wrote:
> Likewise, if Peter were the token Slytherin or Hufflepuff, well
> *grumble*
Grumble indeed!
I quite agree, Ani. Even leaving aside for the moment the fact that
people are sorted at the tender age of eleven, and that life does
have a way of wearing us down (especially in times of war), I think
Peter's a pretty good Gryffindor, myself. The only one of the Sorting
Hat's stated criteria that he does not fulfill is chivalry.
Let's look at what the Sorting Hat has told us about those criteria,
shall we?
What are the characteristics of House Gryffindor?
>From PS/SS:
"brave at heart"
"daring"
"nerve"
"chivalry"
>From GoF:
"bravest"
Hmmm. Funny, isn't it? I don't see "integrity" anywhere on the
list. Nor do I see a single mention of "pride," "stoicism,"
or "courage." I don't see "wisdom" either -- although I did see that
mentioned as a Ravenclaw characteristic. I don't see "loyalty" --
that's Hufflepuff. Nor do I see any clause about "those who do not
betray their friends to the enemy." Ironically enough, the closest
thing to *that* criterion that the Hat has ever cited has been
attributed to House Slytherin.
So why all this dismay over the Sorting of Peter Pettigrew?
Becky wrote:
> Remember, *moral* bravery is not the same thing as *bravery.*
No. It isn't. In fact, we don't generally call it "moral bravery"
at all, do we? That phrase sounds quite strange and awkward to a
native English speaker. It sounds all wrong.
It sounds wrong because in idiomatic English, when we speak of moral
bravery, we do not generally refer to it as "bravery" at all.
Instead, we tend to refer to that quality as "moral *courage.*"
There's a subtle but important connotative difference between the two
words. "Bravery" implies *physical* courage. It is not often used
to refer to moral or spiritual integrity. When we willingly risk
physical harm, injury or death, for example, we call that "braving
danger." But when we stand up for what is right, when we act on our
sense of moral integrity, then we call it "having the *courage* of
our convictions."
Naturally, the two concepts are very strongy aligned. Still, I do
find it interesting that the Hat should consistently choose to use
the word "bravery" in its songs, while never once employing the
term "courage." The Hat also stresses "daring" and "nerve," both of
which similarly refer to a very specific -- and very physical -- form
of courage.
The conclusion that I reach from all this is that the particular type
of courage that the Hat (and therefore, one assumes, Godric
Gryffindor himself) most strongly values is the ability to face
danger and to withstand pain. It is a conception of courage that
seems perfectly in keeping with an eleventh century sword-wielding
warrior mage. It is a warrior culture's conception of courage, and
not necessarily one that coincides all that well with that of our own
20th century culture.
Now we do, I think, tend to assume that moral courage is also quite
important to House Gryffindor. There are indications that it is.
The Gryffindor characters we see in canon themselves place a very
high value on that sort of courage, and there are also a few
characters (Hermione and Neville) whose allocation to House
Gryffindor only seems explicable if we assume either that the Hat
prioritizes values over proclivities, or that it is looking not only
for physical bravery, but also for moral courage, the "courage of
ones convictions," the willingness to stand up for what is right. It
is the sort of courage that Dumbledore himself prioritizes. It is
what he rewards Neville for, and it also lies at the heart of his
"what is right vs. what is easy" speech.
But is it a *primary* consideration of House Gryffindor, that sort of
courage? Is it what the Hat itself prioritizes?
It doesn't look to me as if it is. It looks to me as if moral
integrity ranks somewhere down below "bravery," "daring," "nerve"
and "chivalry."
Peter's doing okay by those standards, I'd say. He's a middling good
Gryff. He's not very chivalrous, true, but bravery? Daring?
Nerve? He's got quite a bit of those, even if it is often masked by
the fact that he has absolutely no *pride.*
But then, "pride" has never been cited as a Gryffindor criterion
either.
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Ani wrote:
> Courage comes in all forms, and while I well not try and argue that
> Peter's been overly brave, I will point out (again) that he argued
> (kind of ) with Voldemort's plan twice, and he was scared, but he
> did it anyway, so he does have courage.
Oh, I'll happily argue that Peter is brave! A moral coward, but
physically brave. And with Nerve and Daring to spare, too.
<Elkins pins her S.Y.C.O.P.H.A.N.T.S. badge proudly onto her chest.
Having thus donned her mantle as the spokesman for the Society for
Yes-Men, Cowards, Ostriches, Passive-Aggressives, Abject Neurotics
and Toadying SYCOPHANTS, she mounts her soap box and begins to speak>
Brave? You want to know if Peter Pettigrew is brave?
Well, okay. Let's just look at what he's *done,* shall we?
--Animagus Adventures--
Barb already cited Peter's animagus adventures as proof of his
bravery:
> I also believe it took some bravery to learn to become an Animagus
> in secret in order to accompany a werewolf.
I agree. Even leaving the werewolf issue aside for the moment, it
took a hell of a lot of nerve just to risk *trying* the animagus
transformation, I'd say. In PoA, Lupin says:
"'Your father and Sirius here were the cleverest students in the
school, and lucky they were, because the Animagus transformation can
go horribly wrong -- one reason the Ministry keeps a close watch on
those attempting to do it. Peter needed all the help he could get
from James and Sirius.'"
I don't even what to *think* about what a "horribly gone wrong"
animagus transformation might do to you, do you? Ugh. Scary. And
while Sirius and James may have been brilliant students, they weren't
actually *professors,* were they? They were teenaged boys who often
did foolish things that thoughtlessly endangered the lives of others:
the Prank, taking Werewolf!Lupin out for his midnight strolls. Peter
himself was not a brilliant student. He was following their lead,
even though he found the work difficult, and even though he knew that
if they led him wrong, the results would likely be absolutely
disastrous for him.
Bravery? Daring? Nerve? Oh, yeah.
Barb wrote:
> If he failed and reverted to human form, he could have been killed
> by Remus.
Even if he knew that he wouldn't fail (it's possible that once you
successfully become an animagus, it becomes so intrinsic to your very
essence that you would never actually flub the transformation), it
still took some guts, I'd say, to run around a forest in the middle
of the night with a giant black dog, a werewolf who needs to
be "controlled" by his larger animal friends, and a *stag,* sharp
hooves and all, when you're stuck in the body of a little rat.
I mean, forget about being eaten. I would have worried about getting
*trampled!*
I also would have worried about owls.
Not to mention snakes.
::slightly twisted smile::
--Spying for Voldemort--
So then what does Brave Peter do?
He spies on his friends for over a year, passing information from the
inside on to Voldemort. Not very nice, no, but I'd say it certainly
took *daring.* It certainly took *nerve.* Especially once it became
clear that Sirius and James suspected someone. They knew that there
was a traitor in their midst. That must have been pretty nerve-
wracking, I'd imagine. What would have happened to him had he been
caught out? I wouldn't have the nerve for that sort of work.
Severus Snape did. So did Peter Pettigrew.
--Snookering Sirius--
Let's see, what then? Well, he was left in a pretty tricky position
after Voldemort's fall at Godric's Hollow, to be sure. He knew that
Sirius was going to be coming after him; as far as he knew, the
entire *Ministry* would be on his tail; and if Sirius is to be
believed, then the other Death Eaters were likely to be gunning for
him as well. So did he run and hide? Did he throw himself on
Dumbledore's mercy? Did he go crawling to the Ministry to cut a
deal, perhaps? Maybe hand over a few DE names in exchange for
clemency, or for a reduced sentence?
No. He didn't do any of those things. Instead, he quite ruthlessly
and efficiently framed Sirius for his crimes and then faked his own
death. That took nerve too. And daring. And a good deal of
bravery, as well, because he chose a plan that necessitated him
facing down Sirius in *person.* As it happened, he did succeed in
pulling the timing off just right, but so many things could have gone
wrong with that plan, most of them lethal. Pettigrew could have
thought up a different plan, perhaps, one that didn't require him to
stand there in the street face to face with an enraged Sirius Black.
But he didn't bother to. That is because Peter Pettigrew is a
*Gryffindor.* He is BRAVE! He LAUGHS in the face of danger! Ha HA!
Oh, yeah, and he also severed his own finger. But that doesn't
impress me all that much, honestly. After all, for all we know, he
could have anaesthetized himself quite thoroughly beforehand. Unlike
the *hand,* which I will get to later.
--Biting Goyle--
Now we come to Pettigrew in the canon. By the time of canon, he does
seem to have been a bit degraded, I'd say, by all of those years
spent in rat form. As Scabbers, he primarily strikes me as
profoundly depressed. (He does little but eat and sleep, and
exhibits a fondness for chocolate).
Still, he does bite Goyle on the hand on the train in PS/SS, which
may not seem like much, but when you consider their relative sizes
does show a certain amount of spunk, I'd say, especially since
adolescent bully boys are really not known for their tenderness
towards their enemies' pets. I wouldn't have wanted to mess with
Goyle if I'd been Scabbers. Just think of how much bigger Goyle
was! And how high off the ground (from a rat's perspective) he must
have been, once Goyle started whipping him around, trying to get him
to let go. Indeed, he ends up getting slammed into a window for all
his pains, which even given JKR's tendency towards exaggeration when
it comes to physical comedy involving battered animals (bouncing
ferret, anyone?), still had to hurt.
Brave? Well, yeah.
--Waiting Game in PoA--
>From the very start of the third book, Pettigrew knows that Sirius
has escaped from Azkaban. He knows that Sirius is probably coming
after him. He *knows* this.
So, does his nerve fail him? Does he flee Hogwarts? Does he scarper
off to Albania to seek Voldemort's protection right away?
No. He doesn't. He's scared to death, yes. He's literally sick
with fear. And he has that darned *cat* to worry about as well, not
to mention Remus Lupin, who would presumably recognize his rat form
just as Sirius had, and who therefore cannot be permitted to spot
him. Quite an unnerving situation for poor Peter to find himself in,
don't you think? Why, it's enough to make any self-respecting coward
head for the hills.
Except that Pettigrew doesn't. He doesn't actually break and run
until halfway through the school year, and then only when Sirius
finally gets close enough to him that he feels that he has no other
alternative. Up until then, he's playing a waiting game, hoping that
Sirius will be caught. Did that waiting game take nerve? Did it
take daring? I wouldn't have had the stomach for it myself.
--Escape From Sirius and Lupin--
And then there's Shrieking Shack.
<long pause>
<sigh>
Well...okay. Actually, Pettigrew really doesn't put up a very good
showing at all in the Shack, does he? He couldn't even manage to
stand up to Lupin's interrogation. He couldn't even hold to
his story. He couldn't even lie *convincingly.* Instead he sweats,
stammers, changes his story at least three times, and then collapses
and sobs out a confession. It's just pathetic. No, there's no
question that Pettigrew's nerve really failed him there in the
Shack. It failed him badly. But hey. What can you do? These
things do happen sometimes, you know, even to ordinarily Daring
Gryffindors like Peter Pettigrew.
But hey, what a comeback right afterwards though, eh? You want
Bravery? You want Nerve? You want Daring?
I've said this before, but it's still true. If I'd just had as close
a squeak as Peter had there in the Shack, and then I was informed
quite gravely that if I tried to transform, I *would* be killed, I
would never have had the nerve to seize my opportunity like Pettigrew
did the instant Lupin started to transform. I would have been far
too cowed. No rational weighing of the options (Do you really *want*
to go to Azkaban, Elkins? You know you won't last six months in
there. So wouldn't it be better to take the gamble on the main
chance *now?*) would have enabled me to act that swiftly or that
decisively in a similar situation. That is because, sadly, I am
*not* daring, nor am I brave; and I have very little in the way of
nerve.
Pettigrew is different. He is not only capable of taking gambles
with his life; he can do so on the spur of the moment, instinctively,
without hesitation. Bravery. Nerve. Daring.
--Relations with Voldemort--
Ani wrote:
> I will point out (again) that he argued (kind of ) with Voldemort's
> plan twice, and he was scared, but he did it anyway, so he does
> have courage.
Just seeking out Voldemort in Albania took some nerve, I'd say. It
was an act of desperation, true, but at the same time, Peter really
had no idea how he'd be received, did he? The last time he dealt
with Voldemort was, well, Godric's Hollow, probably. Sirius claims
that the Death Eaters in Azkaban believe that Pettigrew lured
Voldemort to his doom. For all Peter knows, Voldemort might believe
precisely the same thing. As Scabbers, he likely heard enough of
what happened in Ron's first year to know that if Voldemort ever
balked from discarding his followers, he doesn't have that scruple
anymore.
Indeed, Peter seems fairly well-convinced throughout GoF that
Voldemort is constantly on the verge of killing him. He seeks
reassurance in the first chapter -- and fails to get it. He seems
fully convinced after Crouch's escape that Voldemort really does plan
to feed him to Nagini (although surely a moment's thought should have
informed him that this must have been an idle threat!). Eileen has
argued -- and I agree with her -- that in the moments right after
Voldemort's re-birthing, Pettigrew believes that he has outlived his
usefulness and is about to be killed.
Yet even trapped in this dubious position, he is capable of asserting
himself. He objects to Voldemort's plan to use Harry in the ritual
at least twice, and from Voldemort's almost exasperated response in
the first chapter of GoF, I got the impression that Peter had raised
the subject even more often than that. He objects to the plan, he
quibbles over its details, he questions its timing. Although he
couches his objections in the careful phrasing of the sycophant,
taking care to pepper them with all of the requisite "my Lord"s
and "I must speak"s, he's really quite an argumentative little
fellow in that first chapter. He may be a sycophant, but he's hardly
a yes-man (which is precisely the reason, I believe, that Voldemort
will later go to such pains in the graveyard to drive the inequitable
nature of their relationship home to him; by delaying rewarding
Pettigrew until Pettigrew has first publicly and formally stated that
he deserves and is owed absolutely *nothing,* Voldemort hopes to
eradicate Pettigrew's uppity notion that there might actually some
quid pro quo involved in their relationship).
Bravery? Nerve? Daring?
Well, I guess that all depends on just how mad, irrational, or
Cruciatus-happy you think that Voldemort really is in GoF. Pettigrew
might be taking a considerable risk every time he argues yet another
point, or he might not be. It's hard to say, really. I myself tend
to think that he's not really taking all that great a risk by voicing
his objections -- Voldemort needs him -- but all the same, Pettigrew
himself seems to feel that he is. So I'm willing to give him a few
Nerve and Daring points for that, I suppose.
I would also hand him a couple of Nerve points for his almost
indignant response to being slammed around right after Voldemort's
rebirthing. Although he is in considerable pain, and likely believes
that he is about to be killed, he still manages the self-assertion of
that reproachful "you promised," which really does show a certain
degree of chutzpah, I'd say.
--The Hand--
Barb:
> He may seem like a craven coward so far, but I think we've already
> seen one instance of rather gruesome bravery that contradicts the
> idea of cowardly Peter: his cutting off his own hand to give
> Voldemort his body back. How many people would have the nerve to do
> that? We might not agree with his motivations (helping the evilest
> dark wizard there is) but it took a great deal of bravery
> nonetheless. No, I do not believe Peter is lacking in bravery.
> Scruples he certainly seems to lack (and whether he's redeemable in
> that regard may yet be seen); bravery, hardly.
Absolutely agreed! The man cuts off his own hand. Not only does he
cut off his own hand, but he also does it *unsupervised.* He isn't
being bullied into doing it in any immediate sense. There's no
Voldemort standing over him, threatening to punish him if he doesn't
go through with the ritual as arranged. No one is there to brow-beat
him, or to urge him on, or to buck him up, or to give him any form of
external encouragement whatsoever; he is completely on his own, and
he is in no immediate danger should he change his mind and refuse to
go through with it. In fact, the question of why he *didn't* just
let Baby!Voldemort drown has come up before on this list.
Yes. That took bravery. Physical courage.
As well as one hell of a sharp blade...
Melody:
> Who as a side note when rereading the graveyard scene, wonders how
> small Pettigrew had enough strength to cut through his forearm with
> one swish of his dagger. Either that is a VERY sharp dagger or a
> VERY fast, strong swish.
Well, the dagger was being used as an important tool in an elaborate
work of old Dark ritual magic, so while I'd ordinarily call this
explanation a cop-out, in this case I think that it's eminently
fair.
It was a *magic* dagger.
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Sherry wrote:
> IMO, he does these things out of loyalty (to Voldemort), not
> bravery.
He's not loyal to Voldemort. If he'd been loyal to Voldemort, then
he would have sought him out years before. When he finally does go
looking for Voldemort, it only takes him a couple of *months* to
locate him. He could have done so with equal facility any time
after learning that Albania was the best place to start his search,
which I'm guessing he's probably known for years. At the very
latest, he learned it during Ron's second year.
No, he's not loyal to Voldemort. He's not even loyal to himself in
any deeper sense. Loyalty really isn't one of his virtues, IMO.
> Voldemort accuses him of wavering, which causes him a great deal of
> consternation precisely *because* his dominant trait is loyalty,
> and he is now very willing to do anything necessary to redeem
> himself in Voldemort's eyes.
I think that it upsets him precisely because he knows that he is
*not* loyal. He's a betrayer. He betrays his friends, he betrays
his better judgement, he betrays his benefactors, he betrays his
principles. He betrays himself. By the time the series is ended,
he'll almost certainly have betrayed Voldemort as well. The
accusation is true, and that, IMO, is precisely why it stings.
Contrast his consternation at being accused of disloyalty, however,
with his willingness in the Shrieking Shack to tell Sirius that he
has never been *brave.*
He shows so little consternation over that particular admission
because he knows full well that it isn't completely accurate. He
doesn't mind it much when Voldemort calls him a coward either.
Accusations of cowardice just don't seem to bother him very much.
They have no power to wound him. Accusations of disloyalty, on the
other hand, really do seem to genuinely hurt him. I think that's
because he knows that disloyalty truly is one of his moral failings.
Ani wrote:
> I just see the urge to put Peter in another house as plain
> silliness.
So do I. I think that he quite plainly belonged in House Gryffindor.
Elkins
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