About Florence

ats_fhc3 the.gremlin at verizon.net
Mon Oct 14 23:07:34 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 45344

hickengruendler wrote:
"I've read many of the old Florence theories, and I haven't found 
this 
one. But I haven't read any single post, so maybe I just missed it, 
and it was already mentioned.
 
I think that Florence is the later Mrs Longbottom, Neville's mother. 
After all, Neville is very good in herbology. It's not very 
realistic 
that he has inherited the talent from his father, an auror, so maybe 
he has it from his mother, and who could be a better herbologist as 
someone with the name "Florence"?
 
I also think, it is odd, that Neville's mother's first name wasn't 
mentioned at the trial against Crouch jr and the others. Crouch sen. 
talked about Frank Longbottom and Frank Longbottom's wife. Why isn't 
the name of Frank's wife mentioned, although she was a victim? This 
isn't logically. JK Rowling could easily have invented some name 
like 
Beth or Marcia or whatever, but she didn't. So I suppose, that 
Neville's mother is more important as Frank. And whose name was 
mentioned in the same chapter, only a few pages later? Florence's. 
JK 
Rowling often mentioned the names of figures, who will be important 
later, we all know this (Sirius, Mrs Figg etc.). But if she has 
mentioned Florence's name at the trial, everybody would have 
recognised it, because the second mention of Florence were only 
short 
time later.
 
I am sure, whoever Florence is, if she ist important, that she 
kissed 
Snape behind the greenhouses. But she dumped him and married Frank 
Longbottom. This would explain Snape's horrible behaviour towards 
Neville.
 
What do you think about this theory? Is it possible?"

I jumped on this theory because it's definitely a new one. I warn 
you, though, I have a bad habit of killing threads. 

Anyway, it has been speculated that Snape was the one kissing 
Florence behind the greenhouse, but this is new, about Florence 
being Neville's mother. 

As far as I can see, there is no canon evidence for this, but then 
there is no canon evidence that it was Snape with Florence. I agree 
with you that Florence will probably become important later. First 
of all, Harry hears about her, and it's in a chapter where most of 
the stuff he hears is important later on, and her name is mentioned 
in relation to Bertha Jorkins. I'm not sure about the 
Florence/Herbology connection, but the kissing was behind the 
greenhouse, so it could work. Perhaps it was after an Herbology 
class, or Florence was working in the greenhouse, as she did so 
often, and Snape met here there. 

Now, as for it being Snape. Other than the hex, we don't really have 
canon for it being him. It would be interesting to find out what 
house Neville's parents were in, though. Yah, I don't think Neville 
would inherit any herbology talent from his father, and we just 
don't know enough about his mother. Since she was mentioned, 
however, in an important moment in GoF, I think that she will 
certainly become important later on. We already have Frank's name 
and occupation, why shouldn't we have Mrs. Longbottom's? 

Also, why DID the DEs torture her? If she was so unimportant as to 
not even be given a first name, what would make them think she knew 
about Voldemort? Unless, it WAS Snape she was kissing, and perhaps 
they were friends of a sort, and were in contact or something, and 
the DEs knew that? Then they would have a reason to torture someone 
for information as seemingly as unimportant as the unnamed Mrs. 
Longbottom.

Now, for Neville inheriting his mother's talent for herbology, it 
has been implied that Lily Potter was good at charms, and James 
Potter was good at Transfiguration. However, Harry is good at DADA, 
so I don't think Neville would have inherited his mother's talent. 
Also, JKR is stressing the "who you become is more important than 
what you were born to" point. 

I hope this made sense, as I am in between classes and work, and 
trying to make coffee. I also hope that I don't kill this thread!

-Acire, who gave her friend a Snape doll for a gag gift, and we 
spent the afternoon playing with him and pondering how he wound up 
fat with Santa Clause-like pink cheeks and forehead. And also, why 
he was wearing a dress. 






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