The "face-value" theory of PoA -- now with shiny acronym! (LONG)
Porphyria Ashenden
porphyria at mindspring.com
Tue Oct 15 22:30:19 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 45404
Porphyria brings home her shiny new PRESSURE COOKER and puts it on
the counter. She had been admiring a MAGIC DISHWASHER in the window
and was amazed at all it's complicated features and intricate
craftsmanship, but then she ultimately decided that a PRESSURE COOKER
would be more durable in the long run. She scrutinizes the standard
settings as recommended by MarinaManufacturing, and they look pretty
good. She can't resist a few tweaks. She finds the "Dumbledore is
cruel to Snape" knob and turns it up a little. Then she turns it down
a little. Then she jiggles it. Finally she leaves it at medium -- not
too hot, not too cold. The she finds the "Snape didn't feed Sirius to
the Dementors..." control panel and keys in the "because he's just to
darn decent" setting. Then she finds the "Snape could have figured
out that Hermione had a TT" knob, and she cranks that puppy up to 11.
Then she stands back and admires it. "It's perfect!"
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But the MAGIC DISHWASHER sales staff is very enthusiastic.
Pip quotes Marina here:
> At this point, Snape is in a very precarious position. He's
> facing two powerful evil wizards, one of whom is likely to turn
> into a bloodthirsty monster at any moment. He's outnumbered, and
> responsible for the safety of three ungrateful brats
And Pip replies:
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So he ties up *both* of the powerful evil wizards, conjures up two
stretchers, and tells the kids to stop messing about, and help him
get Lupin and Black back to Hogwarts.
No?
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So, the question is, why did Snape act the way he did? Well, for one
thing, Sirius does not have a wand at this point. So no matter how
many Muggles he was supposed to have blown up in his DE days, Snape
apparently doesn't consider him a threat without a wand.
Furthermore, Snape has shown over and over that he likes making
dramatic speeches, and this 'vengeance is very sweet' sort of
posturing is right up his alley. I admit it does not make practical
sense, but it goes along with his face-value personality as
established in canon.
As to the kids disarming him; it has been established in canon that
when multiple wizards aim the same on a single target it gets
proportionally stronger, so I have no particular problem that they
knocked him out. I also have no particular problem with the fact that
he spent time demanding that they acknowledge he was saving them
without quite understanding that they were about to attack him. This
too, does go along with his established habit of insisting on
appreciation and respect, even to the point of being insulting about
it.
Marina argues that Snape doesn't feed Black to the dementors for
various prudent reasons and Pip replies:
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Ah, another problem with the face-value reading. Which you've dealt
with very well giving a plausible motivation for Snape which
does
account for the embarrassing fact that his behaviour when he thinks
Harry is unconscious and therefore *not* observing him is different
from his behaviour when he thinks Harry *is or may be* observing him.
Yup, that's fine. He screams his head off in the Shack, and in the
Hospital later, but in this particular moment he is perfectly calm,
in control, and able to consider the consequences of his actions.
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You don't have to buy MAGIC DISHWASHER to notice and agree that Snape
acts very differently when he thinks he has an audience versus when
he thinks he's not being watched (at least not by students). The face-
value reading would suggest that not only does he love making threats
that he never keeps, but also that he loves it for the reaction he
gets out of people; he loves frightening them and he loves weirding
them out. He's motivated by the emotional effect he has on others;
that's part of what drives him to act up, especially with Harry. I'd
say he doesn't need more of an ulterior motive than that. Some people
are just *like that* and Snape is one of them. Feeding, or
threatening to feed, Sirius to a Dementor when *everyone else is
unconscious* is just no fun at all. And besides, I do like to think
he's too decent to carry through on all his threats.
Pip remarks parenthetically:
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[I do have a problem with the way Snape, who has spent the last
three books apparently trying to get Harry expelled, is so
extraordinarily tentative when faced with someone [Fudge] who may
well have the power to *insist* Harry be expelled. However, it is
not yet canon that the MoM does have that power
, so we'll ignore
that objection.]
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Well, maybe this is MD'ish of me -- no not really -- but I don't
believe that Snape wants to get Harry expelled. Snape wants to
frighten Harry into behaving. He does this by threatening to expel
him. (When this doesn't work, by GoF, he tries threatening him with
Veritaserum. But they are *always* empty threats. He never follows
through.)
On to Richard's objection that Fudge tells Snape to be reasonable.
Pip remarks:
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If you go through Fudge's dialogue in this Chapter, and in Chapter
21, you will find that Fudge addresses Snape as `Snape', or in
extreme exasperation, `man' or `fellow'. He never calls him
*Severus*. Only *Dumbledore* in this scene calls Snape by his given
name.
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And yet, as she points out, the text reads like so:
<PoA quote>
"He must have Disapparated, Severus. We should have left somebody
in the room with him. When this gets out --"
"HE DIDN'T DISAPPARATE!" Snape roared, now very close at
hand. "YOU CAN'T APPARATE OR DISAPPARATE INSIDE THIS CASTLE! THIS --
HAS -- SOMETHING -- TO -- DO -- WITH -- POTTER!"
"Severus -- be reasonable -- Harry has been locked up --"
<and then a few lines later>
"See here, Snape, be reasonable," said Fudge. "This door's been
locked, we just saw --"
</PoA quote>
Pip, I see what you mean that the first line is not attributed. And I
acknowledge that Dumbledore does appear to be alone in calling Snape
by his given name.
Still, I can't buy your interpretation. I refuse to believe that
Dumbledore would suggest Disapparation to Snape with a straight face
since Dumbledore is probably the one in charge of making sure you
cannot Apparate into or out of Hogwarts. Furthermore, Fudge *does
tell* Snape to be reasonable a few lines later, so that's certainly
an expression he would use. So is "when this gets out"; that line is
Mega-Fudgey.
So, my non-Metathinking interpretation would be that perhaps Fudge,
who is obviously upset by Snape's ranting, is just trying to get his
attention by calling him by his given name against his custom. He's
*pleading* with Snape at this point and leaves off pleading a few
lines later. Calling someone by a name they're not used to hearing
you use can be a good way of snapping their attention to you.
Also I refuse to believe that Dumbledore would lie outright. He tells
Harry he will never lie to him (so unless he's lying when he says
that...<g>). And his not-lie "unless you are suggesting..." is far
more typical of his clever way of using the language.
I think that's my big objection to MD. I like to think that
Dumbledore is clever enough to never lie outright. And I don't like
to think Snape lies either -- except to Voldemort.
~Porphyria, hoping Marina doesn't mind her taking her part for her
p.s. And who also really loves the "Snape is Sirius' illegitimate
half-brother" theory, even if it is a bit soap-opera-ish. It needs an
acronym. :-)
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