Where's the Bang?/Hogwarts Houses (Was: RE: House assumptions)
Becky
squireandknight at yahoo.com
Sun Oct 20 05:21:15 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 45586
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., m.bockermann at t... wrote:
> As a big fan of the House assumptions I feel compelled to answer
this one.
>
>
> I work on the presumtion that is was either Sirius (more likely) or
Remus
> that was in Slytherin (James was in Gryffindor, we know that from
JKR). I
> can imagine several bangs. The first bang is the shock for Harry
when he
> finds out. <snip> Maybe that would
> change his view on present Slytherins, or Snape, or the fact that
he was
> nearly sorted into Slytherin himself (I also adhere to the believe
that
> without Harry's pleas he would indeed have ended up there).
>
> Another scenario is to have that disclosure as the cause for
disclosing
> Harry's little secrets: that he would/should have been sorted into
Slytherin
> and that his wand is the brother to Voldemort's. Or revealing that
one of
> the Marauders was a Slytherin might help to calm the waves after the
> disclosure of Harry's secrets.
But that really doesn't seem Bangy enough for the total silence on
the House status in the first place. IMNSHO there is no way Remus
would have been able to keep his werewolf status a secret from
Severus for so long if they were sharing a dormitory. And if it was
Sirius, then I think a lot of listies would be asking why it wasn't
brought up at the Three Broomsticks when Fudge, McGonagall, Madam
Rosmerta, and Hagrid were talking about Sirius' "betrayal." None of
them would seem to have any reason for keeping silent about it when
speculating about Sirius. So why (especially given Hagrid's, in
particular, prejudice against the Slytherins) wasn't it mentioned? I
think JKR would have to have *some* explanation for the silence.
> I think the houses as similiar to student - ouch, I can't recall
the English
> word for it :-( - those sororities or elite clubs they have at US
(and
> British?) universities that are often named with Greek letters.
<snip> I know, that the senior members of those societies keep
> in contact well beyond their university time and are expected to
help each
> other along. I can imagine that wizards from the same house will
help out a
> fellow ex-mate, for example helping with a promotion or such. While
I grant
> to you that Gryffindors, Ravenclaws and Huffle-Puffs would scorn
such
> practice, I can well imagine the Slytherins to behave this way. If
indeed
> the DEs were mostly or exclusivly made up of alumni-Slytherins, the
DEs
> would likely have exploited this unwritten code.
>
I tend to hope they were a lot more scattered around the Houses than
that, though I can see your reasoning.
> I assume, that for the people, being a Parselmouth will place you
along the
> descendants of Slytherin or in their very close relations. The
talent is
> certainly rare for that. So for the people, LV would of course
speak Parsel
> because he was the Heir of Slytherin. That reasoning is the only
logical
> explanation why the other Hogwarts students were so quick to shun
and blame
> Harry.
I'm not so sure. In FBAWTFT it mentions "Herpo the Foul," who is
Greek, in the section on Basilisks, and "writings of Parselmouths" in
the Runespoor bit. While I know some are wary of its absolute
canonical purity, I think that this tends to reflect JKR's mind about
the rareness and origin of Parselmouths.
Also, the students were already suspicious of Harry, having a trait
that Slytherin was known to hold would seem to only clinch the
matter, especially given the atmosphere. Particularly, as Tom Riddle
seemed to suspect that he and Harry were the only two Parselmouths to
attend Hogwarts after Salazar Slytherin. Even given a lack of
familial information, it doesn't seem likely that Parselmouth's are
automatically associated with Slytherin (outside of locations where
Slytherin's Heir is supposed to be attacking people that is ;-)), and
TR has spent around five years discovering the secrets of Slytherin's
Chamber of Secrets.
>
> Greetings,
> Ethanol
Becky
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