[HPforGrownups] Order of the Phoenix: A different view

Jacob C. Lewis notcarlos at hotmail.com
Mon Oct 21 14:19:58 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 45631

Rita, that great dropper of hints, wrote:
>  Actually to get such a "prize"isn't just to get a cup or medal but, if we 
>go back to the MiddleAges where this kinds of things belong, to became a 
>member of a special group of people, I think it mainly involved knights 
>(like the Templars), but no one better than Jacob can explain this point, 
>and this groups had a common purpose and common values that bind them 
>together.

True.  I'm more reminded of the Order of the Garter, a band of high-minded 
knights who served the king with distinction.  Perhaps what Dumbldore is 
doing is reviving all those whom he holds as loyal to himself -- a sort of 
counter-group to the Death Eaters -- and in turn reviving the distinction.  
Perhaps, then, the OoP has something to do with people who've been touched / 
healed by the Phoenix.

>This ties in with the 'rebel group' idea. What if this ancient order was 
>devoted to fighting the Dark Forces, but then the times changed and there 
>were no more dark wizards to fight and it remained only as a "honour". Now 
>things have chanced again and it's time to get the Order up and operative 
>again.

How ancient does it have to be, and does it have to be 'only an honour'?  
There's slight hints throughout the book (Fudge's Mysterious Movements in 
PoA, for one) that someone or something is moving behind the scenes, 
directing the WW when the Ministry slips a cog (or the MoM could just be 
incredibly good at their job, you never know).

>just an idea.
In the words of one of my former Philosophy Profs, "Yes!  Yes it is!"  He 
was a bit of a nutter, though.

Jacob Lewis
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and I didn't get a single pair. People will insist on giving me books.
-- Albus Dumbledore, "Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone"


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