Fifth Wheel or house intermixing stud? (was Re: Neville ?greatness expected?)

hickengruendler hickengruendler at yahoo.de
Thu Oct 24 21:35:09 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 45748

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "jtdogberry" <jtdogberry at h...> wrote:
>  
> > Fyre Wood (me) replies:
> > 
 > > 
> > I think that Neville will do something great in the future, 
though 
> what that "great" 
> > thing is, is still unknown.
>  
> Yep, that goes for both of use (begins to oil WINCH) 

In fact, we are already at least three ;-). I completely agree with 
you in this point.    
   <snip> 
> Someone mentioned that Neville is under the imperious curse. I've 
got 
> to say I don't belive that rumour at all, it has faults (it wears 
off 
> like it did with Ron) and no noe has seen book 5 apart from JKR
 
Somehow I begin to believe the Imperius curse rumour. When I read 
book 4 the first time, I really wondered, why the fake Moody took 
Neville to his office. He could have given him the book in front of 
Harry, maybe even with a clever commentary about breathing under 
water. There must have been another reason. But maybe it was just the 
top of Barty jrs. sadistic behaviour, (consoling the boy he teased 
during the lesson). And I also want to know, if he really put Neville 
under the curse in his office, why didn't he tell him, to give Harry 
some informations about the second task? But I am absolutely sure the 
Imperius curse will be more important in later books. Imagine the 
pain, if a good character hurts or even kills someone he cares about, 
while he is under the imperius curse. Neville is a possible 
candidate, but so is nearly everyone. I've heard the rumour (sadly, I 
don't know, if JK Rowling herself said it), that the next Quidditch-
Team member will be the last person we expext to be and then 
somenthing about the first flying lessons. If these statement is 
true, it clearly seems to point out Neville as the member. And then 
there is the sentence in book 4, when Moody put the imperius curse on 
the class, that Neville did some gymnastics he wouldn't be able to 
do, when he is not under imperius. This could be some forshadowing.

 > The way I see that unforgiving curse 
> lesson is that Neville knew who it was but had no proof so as a 
> warning to "Moody" he raised his hand, after all he never answered 
> anything unless it was herbology so to all of a sudden do this must 
> of had another motive. But "Moody" warned him to keep his mouth 
shut 
> by the demostration. That my opoin anyway.

I don't think so. It's just not Neville's character. He might not be 
the brightest student, but he isn't that stupid, to warn a dangerous 
lunatic, that he knows about his true idendity and go with him in his 
office short time later. However I do think, it is possible that he 
knew something, without realizing it. Maybe an odd feeling he had 
seeing Moody. Maybe it was the way Moody reacted during the cruciatus 
curse on the spiders. Maybe Neville had seen it before, the day when 
his parents were attacked? This would explain, why he hesisted to 
follow Moody in the office, but then did, because he didn't trust his 
feelings and tried to act reasonably. 
> 
 
> 
> I would also know about Neville's mother. I still find it very 
> strange that she is not mentioned by name and that she was tortured 
> second. I think it was his mother who knew about Voldie and her 
> husband was covering for her.

Oh yes, I want to know the reason, why her first name isn't 
mentioned, too. But I still (want to?) think, Neville's mother is 
Florence :-).

Hickengruendler, whose favourite character is Neville and who of 
course also don't think, that Neville is evil.





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