[HPforGrownups] Re: Robes and other Clothing

[eloiseherisson at aol.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 45765

In a message dated 25/10/2002 02:49:02 GMT Standard Time, bboy_mn at yahoo.com 
writes:


> 
> In this groups photo section, I added a new album called 'School
> Robes'. In it are some still photos from the movie 'Lord of the
> Flies'. This is the 1963 release British made, all British case
> version of the film. 
> 

<Picks self off floor and regains composure>

I see where you're coming from and why you relate these pictures to those in 
the film.
BUT.... I have to say that they're not like any school uniform I've ever 
seen. :-)
I'm afraid haven't seen the film in question either and it's thirty years 
since I've read the book, so I have no recollection whether such garb is 
implied or required by the story. 

They are in *no way* representative of average British school uniform, 
though.

Richard on my analogy to Bluecoat uniform:

>I'd just like to point out that they're called Blue *coats* for a 
>reason.:-) The difference (as I see it) between the Bluecoats and the 
>Hogwarts robes is that the coat is only buttoned to the waist; what's below 
>it (breeches, long socks) is designed to be visible, 

I agree. I wasn't suggesting that they were the origin or indeed even similar 
to Hogwarts robes, merely thinking that this was the sort of thing Bboy might 
have had in mind when be talked about scholastic or choir robes. I realise 
that when he last posted he evidently hadn't got around to reading my post 
and I had previously realised (but too late!) that what he meant by choir 
robes might not be not the same as you or I would mean. This is one of those 
leap-frogging discussions where some of us are not at the same point of the 
conversation as others.

Just to be clear on the choir robes issue: 

In the UK if you talk about choir robes, you would most likely be talking 
about church choirs - secular choirs may have a kind of uniform, but aren't 
often *robed* as such (and I can't talk for non-Christian religious choirs as 
I have no experience of them).
Anglican and Catholic church choirs normally wear cassocks, frequently with 
surplices and the children often wear little ruffs at the neck. Choirs from 
other denominations may be similarly attired, wear no specific robes at all, 
or, particularly in the case of Black churches, have American-style choir 
robes.

As far as I can see, the bottom line on the wizard clothing and uniform issue 
is that in the WW, as in the UK in real life, school uniform tends to be 
old-fashioned or traditional.
Older wizards wear robes, children at home may wear more up to date clothing, 
children at school wear uniform, which in the case of wizards means 
traditional robes, just as my daughter has to wear a blazer and a boater, old 
fashioned items and not the sort of thing the average 11 year old girl would 
wear out of choice, these days.

Eloise

Who'd like to reassure Richard that he's by no means the first to wonder 
about wizard underwear in public and wonders if the answer, for Quidditch 
players at least, is that good old British schoolgirl standby - a pair of gym 
knickers! (Yes, even they still exist!)


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