Was Lupin there when Lilly died? Prof. Trelawney's 1st prediction. spoilers?

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Ok, maybe this has been brought up before, I'm not precisely 
certain.  But I'm rereading my way through the books (3rd or 4th time 
now ;o) ), looking carefully for all these clues you all seem to be 
coming up with.

So, my current thought is:  Why does Lupin act all weird whenever 
Harry brings up what he hears when he's around the demontors?

PoA: In chapter 12, where Lupin is helping Harry overcome the 
dementors with a boggart . . . 

p 239:

"It's getting worse," Harry muttered, biting off the Frog's head.  "I 
could hear her louder that time -- and him -- Voldemort --"

Lupin looked paler than usual.


p 240:

"Lily, take Harry and go!  It's him! Go! Run! I'll hold him off --" 

The sounds of someone stumbling from a room -- a door bursting open --
 a cackle of high-pitched laughter --

"I heard my dad," Harry mumbled.  "That's the first time I've ever 
heard him -- he tried to take on Voldemort himself, to give my mum 
time to run for it . . . ."

"You heard James?" said Lupin in a strange voice.



Ok, so does this mean that Lupin is:

a. frightened for Harry?
b. afraid of Voldemort (although according to Harry, Lupin is the 
only one besides Dumbldore who he's ever heard call Voldemort, 
Voldemort, instead of He who must not be named.  This raises the 
question, (as we also know that Harry heard the Malfoy's call him 
Lord Voldemort in that horrible shop in year 2) was he a follower?  
Could he have been one of the missing people at the graveyard in year 
four?
c. Lupin's afraid Harry will remember something that would place him 
at the scene?
d. frightened of Voldemort?
e. none of the above, insert your opinion here :o)

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Professor Trelawney's 1st prediction. PoA p 426

Dumbledore looked mildly impressed.
"Do you know, Harry, I think she might have been."  he said 
thoughtfully.  "Who'd have thought it?  That brings her total of real 
predictions up to two.  I should offer her a pay raise . . . ."


Ok, so we're fairly certain that the 2nd prediction is referring to 
Pettigrew's escape, to bring Voldemort back to power.

But we don't know about that first one.  I almost think we're going 
to find out.  Could it have been a prediction about Harry in general 
defeating Voldemort?  Is that why Voldemort goes after Harry?  If you 
look at the way above passage, it's almost like whoever the man is, 
he and Lilly are certainly trying to protect Harry more than 
themselves, especially since Voldemort mentions that Lilly does not 
need to die.  I believe we have read elsewhere in the books that 
Dumbledore knew that Voldemort was after the Potters, and that's why 
they went into hiding.  But what if the reality is that he's after 
just Harry?  Or just the male Potter line?


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Just some fun thoughts for the weekend :o)

Julie - who saw the movie before she read the books, and cannot 
escape the image of Richard Harris in Dumbldore's role.