Animagi and Kneazles

Melody Malady579 at hotmail.com
Sun Oct 27 23:54:44 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 45860

Audra wrote (with a bit of snippage):

>>>Crookshanks could tell that both Peter and Sirius were not animals.
 I would think that kneazles' and Dementors' "sixth sense" would
operate on the same wavelength.
>>>The human consciousness is buried so deep in the animal
consciousness that it is only detectable when it is being accessed.
>>>When Sirius met Crookshanks, he was accessing his human
consciousness to process spoken language and read, and Crookshanks
picked up on it.  Peter must have also been accessing his human
consciousness to process the information about Sirius, and Crookshanks
picked up on that as well as his ill intentions.

>>>How does that grab ya?


Well Audra, it doesn't.  At no time does the animagus become purely
animal.  They always are a human first.  If they forgot who or what
they are, they would never remember.  They would be stuck in the
simpler mind.

To say that an animagi can somehow suspend the thought that they are
human does not make sense to me.  If the mind is the same and the
physical form is different, then how can an animagus just "access"
their human side?  By saying that, you are implying that Peter, in rat
form, can somehow suspend his human self and be a rat in mind and
emotion.  But Audra, from his rat mind, he would have to stay
conscience enough to remember that he is human which would defeat the
purpose of subverting to a rat mind in the first place.  That
complicated thought of reality would muddy up his rat mind since a rat
can not retain that idea in the first place.

In animal animagus form, the wizard has the advantages of the physical
animal form and the advantage of a human mind.  I am not sure of the
mechanics of how the human mind shrinks to fit the animal body, but it
obviously does.  Maybe that is why the transfiguration is so
dangerous.  It involves brain changes that are very delicate.


Now, you say that kneazles and dementors have a "sixth sense" for
human emotions and can only see them if accessed.  All right.
Interesting.  But a kneazle does not judge based on emotions I think.
 They somehow know by the presentation whether someone is trustworthy
or not.  And that someone does not have to be human either.  All FB &
WTFT say is "an uncanny ability to detect unsavoury or suspicious
characters."  That leaves the door open to humans and animals.

When Crookshanks approved of Pig on the train home in PoA, he likes
the little tyke.  Whether it is because Pig is not an animagus or
because Pig is a good little owl, we cannot be sure.  Either way, we
do know that the tiny owl is not unsavoury or suspicious.

On the other hand, if Crookshanks got around Nagini, I think
Crookshanks would be very unsettled.  That snake is suspicious and
unsavoury.  Still just a snake (let's hope), but a shady character.

So basically, a kneazle can judge a human or an animal and decide
their loyalties.  Accessing hidden emotions is not needed.

Melody









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