[HPforGrownups] Re: Who were the Potters? (Trelawney's prediction/ voice in Harry's head

[Richelle Votaw]

No: HPFGUIDX 45982

twister10_2000 wrote:

> What exactly *was* Trelawney's first Prediction? I remember the
> prediction she makes at the end of the third book, but for some
> reason, cannot remember a mention of a another _real_ prediciton.
> Would anyone mind pointing out where in the text it's cited...or what
> exactly it is?

Okay, I think that's been pointed out, that we don't know what it was.  But
I'm going to throw my two cents in here.  First of all, whatever the
prediction was, it has to have already come to pass.  Or else the second one
couldn't have been the second.  In my mind, it can't be something like "a
child born to James Potter will be Voldemort's downfall" or whatever.  Now,
in theory, yes, baby Harry did destroy Voldemort.  Temporarily.  But if that
was the first prediction, then by the time the second came to pass, the
first was then null and void.  Because Voldemort was no longer destroyed
once he regained a human form.  Unless, of course, the whole human form
thing is going to destroy him, along with the link to Harry, which would
make both accurate.  But it doesn't look as though he's destroyed where we
stand now, after GoF.  Am I making any sense at all?  I always thought it
would turn out to be a prediction either for something bad (the rise of
Voldemort?) or something stupid, just to throw us off.  Like, I don't know,
that Dumbledore would stump his toe walking down the stairs.  Something like
that.

As for who the Potters were, I think they're bound to be something bad
there.  Not sure which one.  Maybe one was a spy, but not both, maybe both
were spies but turned on Voldemort, etc.  In my mind, for JKR to
deliberately not let us in on their past any earlier than OoP (at the
earliest), there has to be something big there.  Really big, jaw dropping,
etc.

Julie writes:

> Now my question is the voice:
>
> a. Harry's subconcious or wizard conciousness?

This would be the logical assumption.

>  Perhaps a link to another wizard helping keep watch over him, such
>  Dumbledore?

I doubt it, or else he'd at some point recognize the voice.

>  a part of his father still living in him?

Or his mother perhaps?  But surely Harry would've noted that it was a female
voice.  Which makes it more likely that it's a male voice, since he didn't
note it as significant.

I think whatever the voice is, whether it's his own subconscious that is
just stronger than others, or a remnant of his parents, it is what helps him
overcome things like the Imperious in particular.

Richelle

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