Harry and the Phoenix
doffy99
doffy99 at yahoo.com
Tue Sep 3 10:28:46 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 43536
I wrote:
> > Why is this unlikely? Has there ever been mention, I don't
remember
> > it if there was, of how many wizards were killed during
Voldemorts
> > last reign of terror? Could he not been purposely going AFTER the
> > Heir of Gryffindor? Maybe James and Harry Potter were the last
ones?
> > Maybe he had killed all the others.
> >
> > -Jeff
Grey Wolf Wrote:
> It's unlikely because "descendent" is a very generic term. To put
it
> mathematically: if Godric had two sons, and they had two sons each,
> etc., there would be in our days 2^40 descendants of Godric
Gryffindor
> (that's 1 million million, a thousand billion (trillion?), for
> Americans). It's not such a stretch of the mind that they had two
sons
> each; in fact, the average number of sons is probably bigger.
> Obviously, there aren't that many people in the WW (or the world,
for
> that matter), but that is because some die childless, others leave
the
> country, and others simply don't make it. However, the fact is that
> "descendency" is a very general concept, and after 40 generations,
> almost everyone in the country could be a theorical descendant of
> Gryffindor.
>
> If Voldemort was going for descendents, he would've had to
eliminate
> everyone. Besides, after 40 generations it's normally very
difficult to
> know exactly who is a dscendant and who isn't.
>
> Hope that helps,
>
> Grey Wolf
There's a flaw in this theory somewhere. I'm not a good enough
mathematician to see it, but there is. My quess is, that it's in the
assumptions we have to make to get to this point:
1) That JKR will stand by her statement that there are only 1000
students at Hogwarts. It's never said in the books.
2) That this "1000" Statmement is enough information to base a guess
on the population of the wizarding world in Great Britan.
3) That Hogwarts is the ONLY school, teaching magic of any kind,
anywhere in England. We know it's the only "School of Witchcraft and
Wizardry" in England, but is it the only school you can go to to
learn magic? Are there Vocational Schools? Junior Colleges? Whatever.
(Random thought: Is there a difference, in the WW of HP, between
knowing magic and being a wizard or a witch? Where does a hag come
in? Is it possible that there are different classifications depending
on how gifted someone is in the magical arts?)
4) That Wizards reproduce at the same rate, or near the same rate, as
muggles in the real world.
We don't know for a fact any of these.
Although we do have canon. With few exceptions, the Patil's, the
Weasley's and the Creevy's, we know that very few Hogwart's students
have brothers or sisters. We know bloodlines are important to some
families. Perhaps, in order to keep the bloodlines as pure as
possible, it has become a tradition of some sort to have only one
child. This could go back generations. Also, the larger the
population, the harder it is to hide! Another good reason to keep
families small. A tradition that goes back 100's of years. It would
limit the number of hiers to Slytherin and to Gryffindor.
More support for this last idea: The only hier to Slytherin that we
know of, the only one who has successfully opened the CoS, is Riddle.
If there are so many, why isn't a student opening the chamber every
school year?
I'm new here and I'm not as eloquent as some here. I apologize for
this. I do so love to debate though. :)
-Jeff
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