[HPforGrownups] Re: Potters hiding from Voldemort/Snape the Double Agent

Barb P psychic_serpent at yahoo.com
Wed Sep 4 23:31:18 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 43617


 --- In HPforGrownups at y..., Jennifer Kilroy-Tobin <shufan90 at y...> wrote:
> Here is my theory (not much but I am working on it) on the Potters 
> in hiding.  
> It was Snape that informed Dumbledore to warn the Potters, and in 
> trying to keep a low profile gave many of their WW items to 
> Dumbledore, this would explain his possession of the cloak and the 
> Gringotts key. 
While it could have been Snape who gave these items to Dumbledore, it could easily have been Sirius, or they could have given the items to Dumbledore directly.  There are probably different reasons for the different items winding up with Dumbledore.  The key, for instance, would have needed to be with someone who could move about freely in the wizarding world, as Death Eaters may have had an eye on the bank to watch for the Potters trying to access their money.  
 
The Inivisibility Cloak, OTOH, would have been a useful item to people in hiding, so one has to wonder why it wasn't with the Potters, unless Dumbledore retrieved it from the ruins of the Godric's Hollow house.  And even then, the house was supposed to be in pretty sad shape after the attack and it might have been rather difficult to get, or might have been damaged.  
 
HOWEVER--for some reason, I get the impression in PoA, when Snape uses the cloak to enter the Shrieking Shack unnoticed, that he is accustomed to using it.  Not only that, he immediately knows it is Harry's.  Who told him it was Harry's?  He obviously suspected Harry had it after the incident in Hogsmeade where Malfoy sees his head for a moment.  (He also clearly knew who Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs were, as he suggests that Harry received the map from the original manufacturers.)  
 
I believe that Snape knew an Invisibility Cloak was a Potter family treasure.  Perhaps the reason for its being in Dumbledore's posession was that he had asked James to lend it to Snape to help him in his spying.  (Dumbledore wouldn't have needed it, as he has said he doesn't need a cloak to be invisible.)  After the deaths of the Potters, Snape would have returned the cloak to Dumbledore, and it would have escaped being destroyed when Voldemort killed Harry's parents.
 
As for Snape being the one to inform Dumbledore of the danger the Potters were in, Snape may have looked upon this as a way to finally pay back his debt to James for saving his life--a debt, mind you, to a person he really did NOT like, so it must have been eating at him.  Then, when he failed, he lost his chance to pay that debt and Harry was in for a double-whammy of hatred from the Potions Master: for being the son of the man he hated, and for reminding him of his failure.  (Everyone raise their hands who thinks Snape takes failure really well! ::sound of crickets::  My point exactly.)
 
> If Snape was a double agent did LV not announce his new 
> information on the Potters?  Why?  Did he suspect Snape?  
 
In the Pensieve chapter of GoF, Dumbledore says (in the Pensieve, when Karkaroff accuses Snape of being a Death Eater) that Snape came back to their side before Voldemort's fall.  And later, when Voldemort himself says that one of the missing Death Eaters is one who has left him forever and will die, I suspect he is speaking of Snape, so he must have known that Snape was working as a spy and may have made certain that Snape was not privy to the information that Peter was the Secret Keeper and that he spilled the beans to his master.  (After all, in the Shrieking Shack, Snape still seems to think that Sirius is responsible for the Potters' deaths.)  I hope we eventually discover how Snape's cover was blown, if this is what happened.
 
> If he did announce it did Snape not inform anyone because he knew 
> that the targets were James and Harry?  I say yes to this last 
> statement because this conforms to my theory that Snape loves Lily 
> and wanted James and Harry out of the way. When he looks at Harry 
> he sees James whom he hates and Lily (in the eyes) and his guilt 
> at not protecting her. 
 


While I like the Snape-loved-Lily theory of why he first hated James, I sincerely doubt that even Snape would think the way to a woman's heart would be to collude in the murder of her husband and son.  I think it was more likely a blunder that caused Snape's cover to be blown, meaning that he was out-of-the-loop when the information came down that the Potters' Secret Keeper had not kept the secret.  (This would be why, thirteen years later, he still thought Sirius was the Secret Keeper.)  I don't think Dumbledore would still trust him if he had deliberately kept quiet to get James and Harry out of the way.

 

--Barb



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