[HPforGrownups] Re: Harry's Friends/ Betrayal or jealousy?

[Richelle Votaw]

No: HPFGUIDX 43835

Carol Bainbridge wrote:

> I'm not so sure about that.  That seems to be from a female point of view,
> but boys friendships are always the same.  For instance, at one point
> (sorry, I forget exactly where), Harry is upset and Ron asks him if he
> wants to play Quidditch.  Hermione thinks this is terribly insensitive of
> Ron, but Harry agrees to it.  It's just what Harry wants.  I really don't
> think boys and girls friendships are the same.  Of course, this doesn't
> prove that Harry WAS close to his dormmates, just that his not having
asked
> Neville about his parents isn't proof that he's NOT.

Well, the reason I brought up Neville and his parents and the lack of Harry
ever asking about them was because of Harry's reaction when Dumbledore told
him.  GoF, U.S. paperback Edition Ch 30, page 602-603:

Harry says:
"You know the trial you found me in? The one with Crouch's son?  Well . . .
were they talking about Neville's parents?"

Dumbledore gave Harry a very sharp look.  "Has Neville never told you why he
has been brought up by his grandmother?" he asked.

Harry shook his head, wondering, as he did so, how he could have failed to
ask Neville this, in almost four years of knowing him.
<snip Dumbledore explaining what happened to the Longbottoms>
Harry sat there, horror-struck.  He had never known . . . never, in four
years, bothered to find out...

It's just that, well, one of the first things Ron and Harry chat about is
family.  And the topic's never come up between him and Neville.  It just
seems to me that Harry isn't really close to him.  And he's almost ashamed
of that in GoF.

Now, on to other things.  On the topic of Ron feeling betrayed or jealous, I
think he's always been jealous.  That's not a new sensation for him in GoF.
He was jealous of Harry's invisibility cloak, of his Quidditch skills, etc.
He's still been friends with him, it hasn't effected that.  You can still be
friends with someone and be jealous of them.  I'm jealous of my friend who
has two, almost three beautiful children while I have none.  Does it affect
our friendship?  No.  The jealousy had not affected Harry and Ron's
friendship.  But when Ron, who he thought Harry told everything to, suddenly
feels that he didn't share something, he feels betrayal for the first time.
And that, my friend, is a lot worse than jealousy.  He was already jealous
of Harry, but had never felt betrayed by him.  However, he all but made up
with the second task.  Since Ron was the one person who meant the most to
Harry.

Richelle

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