Hagrid , magic and dragons (was Why can't Hagrid do magic?)

Mark D. uncmark at yahoo.com
Tue Sep 10 17:32:03 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 43858

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., Heather Gauen <miss_dumblydore at y...> wrote:
> All right, this whole Hagrid thread started me
> thinking (a scary new thing for me!:)). Why, exactly,
> is Hagrid not allowed to do magic? Canon tells us that
> he's "not supposed ter do magic, strictly speakin'"
> and the reason is because of the CoS incident, but
> this really doesn't make sense to me. I can understand
> about things that require licenses, like apparition,
> but why can't he do basic magic? 

As I understood Hagrid's situation in SSt and CofS, he needed special 
permission to do magic. (He asked Dumbledore for a charm to use on 
the henhouse when the controlled Ginny killed the roosters).

On the subject of Hagrid flying, WHY does everyone ignore the 
obvious? Beyond portkeys, flying motorcycles, and Apparition (which 
is one of the most difficult spells) why couldn't Hagrid simply use a 
broom? Dumbledore could easily have given him and invisibility 
charm "I don't need a cloak to be invisible" SSt Ch 12

Concerning Heather, "who thinks that keeping Hagrid from doing
magic after his innocence is revealed is appalling." 
who says he doesn't? After being cleared, Hagrid should have full 
rights after ChofS. I'm reasonably sure he did magic covertly in the 
first 2 books(with Dumbledore's knowledge). He used engorgement on 
the pumpkins in ChofS, and as he did ask for the simple matter of the 
hen house and I'm sure he would for the the pumpkins.

Agreed it isn't spelled out in canon, but the books are Harry-centric 
by definition of their titles.

I was reading Fantastic Beasts with my niece and we were discussing 
Hagrid. From the forward, Newt Skamander rewrote an earlier edition. 
Considering what Hagrid has shown the students concerning 
Acromantula, Hippogriffs, and Centaurs. Also FB leaves out a lot 
about giants & mermen specifically (are are those beings instead of 
beasts?) I would like to see Hagrid rewrite FB at some future date.

My niece loved Norbert and hated the his part was so reduced in the 
movie. She wonders if Norbert will reunite with Hagrid for the great 
battle against Valdemort. Would it be stealing too much from 
Dragonriders to show Hagrid and Norbert racing into battle together?

Uncmark





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