Neville, the sorting hat, and N.I.N.E

jtdogberry jtdogberry at hotmail.com
Tue Sep 10 20:10:50 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 43866


> Carol Bainbridge decided to type:
> > Something struck me about the sorting hat's response to Neville.  
> It's not 
> > a big line, but I wonder about its meaning now:
> > 
> > "The hat took a long time to decide with Neville."
> > 
> 
> Fyre Wood (ME!) Replies.. 
> 
> I think that the sorting hat looks deeply into oneself and then 
> decides where to place it based on two things. The first is the 
> personality characteristics that qualify to be placed in one of the 
> four houses. We know what those are (bravery, ambition, loyalty, or 
> intelligence). 
> 
> However, what if perhaps the sorting hat also grants the desires of 
> not only house placement, but just desires in general. Harry pretty 
> much just chose his house... ("...not Slytherin. Not Slytherin.") 
and 
> perhaps Neville did the same. 
> 
Dogberry writes (a bit too eagerly after having had no acccess to the 
internet for eight weeks!!)
Yay!!! NEVILLE!!!!!!!
Ahem, sorry.
Yep, I agree with you guys there, I think the sorting hat sees a lot 
more then what we give it credit for. In Neville's case, it took 
along time because he isn't so straight foward. My own opinion is 
that he is hiding something. Most likly, it something to do with the 
attack although it could be something else, answers to the usual 
address! The sorting hat could have been trying to prise that 
infomation from him and why he was hiding it. I think it could also 
see someones past and judge them that way.
We will have to see.

> ____________________
> 
> Carol Bainbridge continued with:
> 
> > Every time I read that line, I just assumed that because Neville 
> was such a 
> > klutz -- and not terribly magical -- the hat had a tough time 
> figuring out 
> > where he belonged.  Now I have to wonder, especially with, but 
not 
> > exclusively because of, the possibility that Neville will be 
> working for 
> > Voldemort under the imperious charm.  
> 
> Fyre Wood (ME!) replies... YAY!
> 
> I agree with you here completely. I at first thought that it was 
> because he was nearly a squib that it took so darn long. 
> 
> I sincerely doubt that Neville is going to turn evil. I'm proud to 
be 
> a member of "N.I.N.E" which stands for "Neville Is Not Evil." (
> of this post.) Neville, like I posted earlier, will do something 
> great. JKR has written too many times about the screw ups of 
> Longbottom who is NOT a member of this group and tries to over 
analyse 
> 
Dogberry (ME!)
Er, I'm not sure why Neville would be under the imperious curse, 
maybe I missed that conversation when I was away, I havn't caught up 
yet, but could someone explain that one to me.
But I will sign upto N.I.N.E. Harry has the dream of Pettigrew 
resembling Neville, before he found out he was a traitor. This mean 
that if Harry does have some insight to the future, Neville will give 
up his life for his friends. (Please don't die Neville!)

The screw ups is an intresting point beacause all the way throught 
out GOF, Nevilles' work in class is refered too i.e only person to 
get any charms work, the transfiguration class etc, so I think 
something is going to happen there.
I personally think Neville is afraid of what he can do and is trying 
to find ways to lessening his powers but not everyone is convinced, 
namely Snape.

Just some more random notes, I think Neville knew full well 
who "Moody" was but under peer pressure kept silent beacause he had 
no proof, however for this to be true, he would have had to been 
there at the attack. I would like to know how he reacted at the end 
of term beacause he is not mention again after the Pensive.

TTFN
Dogberry 
who 8 weeks ago, didn't relise just how addictive the board is.





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