[HPforGrownups] Wand mix up/ House Elf/ Sirius' vault

Richelle Votaw rvotaw at i-55.com
Wed Sep 11 00:31:40 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 43871

Candlewick writes:

> Here's my theory:  Ron's new wand's unicorn hair core
> is a hair from *the same unicorn* as Cedric Diggory's.
>  And I don't remember reading anywhere in GoF that
> Harry brought Cedric's wand back when he brought
> Cedric's body back.  So perhaps now Cedric's wand is
> in the possession of LV or a DE, and it will have the
> same connection to Ron's wand as Harry's and LV's
> wands have with their shared phoenix feather cores.
> Is there something in cannon about Cedric's wand after
> he dies?

Ooh, I like this, I really like this!  It would make perfect sense.  Now, it
is possible, as someone (forgot who, sorry) mentioned earlier that Cedric
was tightly gripping the wand at the point of death and it went with him.
However, it's not mentioned one way or another.  Harry obviously was in no
condition to notice Cedric's wand, he didn't even see him die.  He was on
the ground retching at the time, poor kid.  I can't recall if there's canon
to suggest that one simply falls limp from an AK or goes rigid.  Still, I
have this other theory that in JKR's writing style she brings up things from
time to time to prepare for future things.  Such as the phoenix makes a
brief appearance bursting into flames while Harry's waiting in Dumbledore's
office in CoS.  The phoenix then has a major part in the end of that book,
and another major part (especially his song) in GoF.  On the same token, the
priora incantatum is slightly introduced by Amos Diggory when he draws the
last spell from Harry's wand to find the dark mark after the Quidditch cup.
Then the priora incantatum plays a big (really big) part in the graveyard
scene.  So it could come up again.  And there's the fact that JKR makes a
point of letting us know the wand cores of the four champions (though
Harry's we already knew anyway).

I've got some other comments regarding those wands in the graveyard scene,
but I'll start a new post for that I think.  This one's getting long and I'm
not yet finished.

Smellee writes:

> in previous post (#43760) that Dumbledore is a  house elf. Being as
> that caught me completely by suprise and that I love twists, I must
> support such theory. The only person in the whole series who has been
> invisible without the aid of an invisibility cloak is Dumbledore.
> Even MoodyCrouch  had one. So maybe Dumbledore is the only wizard who
> can become invisible. The mark of a good house elf is that you never
> know that they are there. Maybe house elfs can become invisible so
> they can do their chores unobtrusively.  Probably a silly theory, but
> fun. Plus, it explains why he sees socks in the mirror. :)

Well, my one problem (or at least the biggest one) with this theory is that
we don't *really* know that Dumbledore saw socks in the mirror.  That's what
he told Harry.  I must say if someone asked me what I saw in the mirror I
doubt I'd really tell them.  Another issue is, how did Dumbledore know what
Harry and Ron saw?  I suppose he could've been guessing, it's not hard to
pin those two down.

Anyway, back to the house elf thing.  It would explain a lot, first of all
as to why house elves get so much "coverage" in the books.  I get a little
tired of them in GoF.  But if some big revelation is coming up that involves
house elves it would make sense.  Second, Dobby clearly must have apparated,
and as Hermione constantly reminds anyone who cares to listen, you can't
apparate from Hogwarts.  But since that apparently doesn't apply to house
elves, it would allow Dumbledore to get around easier.  He does pop around a
bit.

Fyre Wood replies:

> How odd is it that the vault of Sirius is number 711 and just two
> vaults down is number 713, the one holding the Philosopher's Stone?
> Perhaps the high security vaults are also used for Prisoners of
> Azkaban or convicted murderers? Or maybe it's just a random occurance?

I've been pondering that ever since I learned the vault number of Sirius
Black.  Seeing as my stupid (sorry!) Scholastic edition doesn't say.
However, technically speaking vaults 711 and 713 could be beside each other,
not two vaults down.  If odd numbered vaults are on one side and even
numbered on the other.  Interesting.

Richelle

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