Life+Loyalty: A Voldemort/Dumbledore Connection
bugaloo37
crussell at arkansas.net
Thu Sep 19 16:05:42 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 44211
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Risti" <kristin at j...> wrote:
> <snip> It began with me trying to find the answer
> to a question that I'm sure has plagued most of us:Why is Voldemort
> scared of Dumbledore? <snip>
> So now let me go back to what I began with. Life, and the search
for it. Voldemort admits that it is his goal to conquer death.
Would it not make sense then that his arch-enemy would be the person
who has succeeded in doing this? Albus Dumbledore, along with his
defeat of the dark wizard Grindlewald, is also famous for something
else:his work on alchemy with his partner, Nicolas Flamel. Nicolas
Flamel is holds the only KNOWN(I'll get into that in a later post...)
> Philosopher's stone. The one thing that can truly conquer death.
> Unless of course, it's the tears of a Pheonix. Kinda makes you
wonder just what the Order of the Pheonix is, doesn't
> it? <snip>
>
> ~Risti
The theory of whether or not Dumbledore has achieved some level of
immortality has not been discussed since I joined in 7/01(that I am
aware of). IMO, your theory could go a long way in explaining
Voldemort's hostility towards Dumbledore but not necessarily his
fear. IMO, you could certainly be right that Dumbledore does possess
some knowledge concerning immortality and that it is tied in some way
to the phoenix (the connection between the phoenix and rebirth is
simply too obvious not to be significant). But what is preventing
Voldemort from walking up to Dumbledore and taking it right out of
his hands-so to speak? Obviously, IMO, we have only scratched the
surface of our knowledge of Dumbledore's actual magical abilities.
Hagrid has stated that Hogwarts is safe as long as Dumbledore is
there. In CoS, when Harry tells Tom Riddle that Dumbledore is the
greatest wizard-he does not refute it. He merely states that
Dumbledore is not here right now. IMO, this does seem to be an
acknowledgement from Tom Riddle/Voldemort that a certain amount of
fear of Dumbledore does exist. Who Dumbledore is and what powers he
possesses is another one of JKR's mysteries that keeps us guessing
and longing for the next book. Some have stated that overemphasis of
Dumbledore's abilities takes the spotlight away from Harry-I do not
see it that way. Of course, Harry is significant-but just how he is-
we're still not sure-are we? Harry is surrounded by a multitude of
characters-figuring out what importance each one has in regards to
the final outcome of the series is part of the fun. Harry will
always be the center of the WW as far as we the readers are
concerned. We see the WW through his eyes. Saying Dumbledore's
powers will play an important part in the final showdown, IMO, does
not take anything way from Harry, who I believe will be the ultimate
defeat of Voldemort.
bugaloo37
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