Life+Loyalty: A Voldemort/Dumbledore Connection

bugaloo37 crussell at arkansas.net
Thu Sep 19 16:05:42 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 44211

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Risti" <kristin at j...> wrote:
> <snip>  It began with me trying to find the answer 
> to a question that I'm sure has plagued most of us:Why is Voldemort 
> scared of Dumbledore? <snip>
>  So now let me go back to what I began with.  Life, and the search 
for it.  Voldemort admits that it is his goal to conquer death.  
Would it not make sense then that his arch-enemy would be the person 
who has succeeded in doing this?  Albus Dumbledore, along with his 
defeat of the dark wizard Grindlewald, is also famous for something 
else:his work on alchemy with his partner, Nicolas Flamel.  Nicolas 
Flamel is holds the only KNOWN(I'll get into that in a later post...) 
> Philosopher's stone.  The one thing that can truly conquer death.  
> Unless of course, it's the tears of a Pheonix. Kinda makes you 
wonder just what the Order of the Pheonix is, doesn't 
> it? <snip>
> 
> ~Risti

The theory of whether or not Dumbledore has achieved some level of 
immortality has not been discussed since I joined in 7/01(that I am 
aware of).  IMO, your theory could go a long way in explaining 
Voldemort's hostility towards Dumbledore but not necessarily his 
fear.  IMO, you could certainly be right that Dumbledore does possess 
some knowledge concerning immortality and that it is tied in some way 
to the phoenix (the connection between the phoenix and rebirth is 
simply too obvious not to be significant).  But what is preventing 
Voldemort from walking up to Dumbledore and taking it right out of 
his hands-so to speak?  Obviously, IMO, we have only scratched the 
surface of our knowledge of Dumbledore's actual magical abilities.  
Hagrid has stated that Hogwarts is safe as long as Dumbledore is 
there.  In CoS, when Harry tells Tom Riddle that Dumbledore is the 
greatest wizard-he does not refute it.  He merely states that 
Dumbledore is not here right now.  IMO, this does seem to be an 
acknowledgement from Tom Riddle/Voldemort that a certain amount of 
fear of Dumbledore does exist. Who Dumbledore is and what powers he 
possesses is another one of JKR's mysteries that keeps us guessing 
and longing for the next book.  Some have stated that overemphasis of 
Dumbledore's abilities takes the spotlight away from Harry-I do not 
see it that way.  Of course, Harry is significant-but just how he is-
we're still not sure-are we?  Harry is surrounded by a multitude of 
characters-figuring out what importance each one has in regards to 
the final outcome of the series is part of the fun.  Harry will 
always be the center of the WW as far as we the readers are 
concerned.  We see the WW through his eyes.  Saying Dumbledore's 
powers will play an important part in the final showdown, IMO, does 
not take anything way from Harry, who I believe will be the ultimate 
defeat of Voldemort.

bugaloo37





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