[HPforGrownups] Snape's DE past (was:Re:Snape's "mind set")

kelly broughton kellybroughton at yahoo.com
Sat Sep 21 01:26:44 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 44284


 In a previous post, I say:
> 
> > From what I can tell from canon, the only ppl who seem to be aware of
> > Snape's history are:
> > the Hogwarts faculty (and probrably not all of them)
> > 
> Eloise replies:
> It's not clear to me that 'any' of them know, aside from Dumbledore. 
> Unless you count Crouch/Moody.

I say: Yes, it is possible that none of them know; I would be a bit
surprised if not even McGonagall knew, however.
> 
> kel:
> 
> > the few Slytherins that we actually know of
> 
> Eloise:
> Again, I don't actually see evidence of that. Why would they know?

I say: If most (possibly not all) of the students in Slytherin have DE
parents, I would think that at least some of them would know Snape was a
comrade of sorts, or at least know his name. (I am going by the scene in
GoF, when Voldemort is naming names and having his little reunion. The ppl
in that bunch seem to know each other quite well.)

The fact that he does not mention Snape by name DOES give me pause, and
could mean that they were unaware of Snape's involvement. Or maybe not.
*shrug*
> 
> kel:
> 
> > Voldemort
> 
> Eloise:
> This is undisputable. Voldemort obviously knows all of them and even
> though 
> it is commonly though that the DE's operate in cells and don't know the 
> identity of many other DE's, each individual must surely know some
> others.
> Lucius *may* know, or he may not. It's not clear. Snape undoubtedly
> knows 
> that Lucius was a DE though and I have long speculated that his
> favouritism 
> towards Draco may stem from his resulting cautious approach to Lucius. 
> Whether the latter does, or doesn't know, Snape has to assume that he
> does. 
> kel:

Which was pretty much what I stated above, to some degree.


> > Harry and co. 
> > Sirius (I think- correct me if I'm wrong) 
> 
> Eloise:
> I don't think Sirius knows until the end of GoF.
> He warns Harry about Karkaroff; surely he'd warn him about Snape too, if
> he 
> knew.

I say: I must thank the several ppl who replied and informed that Sirius,
in fact, did NOT know Snape was a DE. Thanks!

> But I don't see that it *can* be common knowledge. I'm sure the parents
> and 
> Governors wouldn't stand for an ex-DE on the staff, no matter how
> reformed he 
> was. Fudge says he allowed Dumbledore to employ a werewolf, yet seems
> shocked 
> that he'd employed a DE. 

Well, when you think of how many ex-DE's ARE Governors.... is Lucius the
only one? Somehow I doubt it, although if there are more, they are
probrably in the minority.

Surely the rumour would
> be 
> that Snape is into the Dark Arts because 'he was once a follower of You
> Know 
> Who', if it were common knowledge? Ron says that everyone knows that
> Lucius 
> was a big supporter of You Know Who. Yet he doesn't know about Snape. I
> don't 
> see that his past *can* be known.
> 
> Eloise
> 

Which was exactly the point of my whole post. :)

-kel


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