[HPforGrownups] Ever so evils (was new Q&A thing)/ life debts/ Sirius Black
Richelle Votaw
rvotaw at i-55.com
Sun Sep 22 18:14:02 UTC 2002
No: HPFGUIDX 44338
--Arcum writes:
> No problem with that. BTW, is anyone keeping track anywhere of whos
> been accused of being ever-so-evil so far?
Oh, good question. Let me see, here's who I can remember off hand, in no
particular order: Dumbledore, McGonagall, Snape, Hagrid, Trelawny,
Sinstra, Lupin, Sirius Black, Fudge, Bagman, Percy Weasley, Neville, Cho
Chang(?), Draco. Didn't include all those "known evils" of course.
Anyone else?
Jeff writes:
> Snape has a debt to James because James pulled him out of the tunnel
> beneath the whomping willow when there was a full grown Werewolf in
> the shrieking shack at the end of that tunnel. If James had NOT gone
> after Snape,(Granted, it was Sirius' fault Snape was there in the
> first place.) Snape would have died at the hands of the Lupin
> Werewolf.
Okay, now I've got it. So the only thing James had to gain was keeping his
friends out of trouble. His own life was in no danger, therefore it is a
life debt. Got it.
Marina writes:
> I don't think there would be anything selfish about Sirius wanting
> to be redeemed. (I'm talking about redemption in the moral sense,
> mind you, not in any religious sense.) Of course he holds himself
> accountable for James and Lily's deahts -- if he didn't, there
> wouldn't be any need for redemption. Redemption isn't about escaping
> punishment or denying guilt -- in fact, admitting guilt and
> submitting to punishment is often a neccessary part of the process.
> But so is making amends and doing one's best to repair the harm
> done. Yes, Sirius is focused on Harry's needs. But I think he's
> very sharply aware that by helping Harry he's atoning for his past
> mistakes.
Yes, I too think he deserves a chance at redemption. In fact, my thoughts
on his "laughter due to temporary insanity" stems from the realization that
he himself *is* responsible for James and Lily's death. He tried so hard to
keep them safe, suggested Peter for that reason, and then Peter was the very
one to betray them. So as he told Harry, he was, in a way, responsible.
That would drive me insane for sure, knowing that by trying to save my
friends I had in fact led them straight to death.
Richelle
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