Ginny touched by Vmort/DH ship/Evil Cho (was Re: Ginny touched by Vmort...)

[Nicole L.]

No: HPFGUIDX 44353

My esteemed friend and filker Lilac said:
> 
> I still can't get over how many different types of
> SHIPS there are out there!  It just proves how
> people interpret things very differently because of
> different backgrounds and cultures.  Go figure!

Oh please, no more Draco and Hermione ships.  Lilac,
you're with me on this one, right?  I was a lot like
Hermione when I was in school, very studious, very
serious, and very intent on getting top grades.  I can
think of several boys I knew who had similar
personalities to Draco's and I can tell you that I
never had any romantic interest in them.  I absolutely
cannot see Hermione learning to overcome Draco's
shortsightedness and his bigotry so that she can fall
in love with him.  Where does that ship have to go
anyway?  Somehow I just cannot picture ickle
Drakeykins feeling happy at the prospect of having
Muggle in-laws. <Whew>  Sorry, but I just had to get
it off my chest.  :)

Lilac said:
> 
> Me too!  Except, I still like the CONNIVING CHICK'S
> REVENGE theory that Cho will become ever-so-evil
> <evil grin>.  

The more I think about this the more I like it.  I am
convincing myself that Cho is going to do something
that is going to have a significant negative impact on
Harry somewhere along the line, whether she intends it
or not.  JKR is so good at throwing us for a loop that
I find myself very suspicious of Cho.  I just feel
like there has to be more to her than we've seen so
far.

Uncmark said:
> 
> "I'd like to see Ginny grow a bit more along with
> the other supporting 
> characters (Neville, Seamus, Colin Creevy)"

I would like to take this brief opportunity to declare
that I *love* Colin Creevy.  I think he is just *so*
cute!  Okay, who wants to throw tomatoes at me?  I
think most people find him obnoxious but I think there
is something endearing about his puppyish attitude and
I feel sorry for him every time Harry snubs him.

Lilac said (with some snippage on my part):
> 
> I think that Ginny is an Ace JKR is holding up her
> sleeve. She has kept Ginny hidden and very much in
> the background in the last two books for some reason
> -- Very JKR-ish of her, I might say.  My theory is
> that this has something to do with her connection to
> Voldemort through Riddle's diary, and her life-debt
> to Harry.  <snip>
> True, Harry gained his bits o'Voldy through
> a most powerful curse.  But, Ginny was possessed by
> the memory of a bright, powerful and evil 16 yr. old
> for the better part of the year, at least from
> Halloween until the end of the school year.  This
> might come into play in one of the next books.  

I completely agree with this.  I really feel that each
and every one of the Weasleys is going to become
pivotal to the future novels in some way and Ginny is
no exception.  There is a reason why she was chosen to
be the one that Lucius gives the diary to and I really
think that JKR has something big up her sleeve for
Ginny.  I also feel that Ginny likely suffers from
some post-Voldy problems like Harry's.  I can't
imagine that after having as intimate a connection
with him as she did everything could be fine and dandy
for her now that Harry got rid of Diary!Riddle.  I
basically think that Ginny was possessed by Riddle and
to my mind that has to leave some sort of magical
impact, something along the lines of Harry's scar,
although I do believe that Harry is more closely
connected to Voldemort because of his physical scar. 
Still, how do we know that Ginny doesn't bear some
sort of physical, as well as emotional, scar from her
experiences with Diary!Riddle? 

Lilac again:
> 
> Now, with GInny's life debt...didn't Dumbledore say
> this is magic at its deepest and most powerful (in
> reference to Harry sparing Peter's life, hence Peter
> is indebted to Harry)?  Doesn't this create a bond
> between the life-saver and the person saved?  
> IMO, when a person is saved, they are compelled to
> help their "saver" when in their presence and their
> safety/life is being threatened.  <snip>  Maybe the 
> person can't help but try to save their "saver's" 
> life, and that's how the magic works.  <snip>  But 
> this is just a pet theory of mine.  No doubt it's 
> been talked about before, I know, but let me pretend

> that I had at least one original thought....  

Evil!Cho seemed original to me.  At least, I don't
recall seeing it discussed while I've been a member.

Anyway, I also think there has to be more to the
life-debt thing.  After all, our attention is called
to that almost as frequently as Hermione and her
"haven't you read 'Hogwart's, A History?  You can't
apparate on Hogwart's grounds!'"  Snape has a life
debt to James because of the Prank.  Pettigrew has a
life debt to Harry because Harry told Lupin and Sirius
to spare him in the Shrieking Shack.  Ginny has a life
debt to Harry because he saved her from the basilisk. 
How many more life debts are we going to see in the
series?  The WW seems to take these life debts very
seriously so either they have a very heightened sense
of honor or, as Lilac suggests, they have some sort of
compulsion/obligation to make good on their life
debts.  Perhaps there is some sort of binding magical
contract that comes about when one wizard or witch
saves another's life.  I think this is an interesting
theory.

Lilac, encoure une fois (got bored with English <G>):
> 
> Okay, I'll poke a hole in my own theory...when has
> Ginny ever shown any effort to save Harry when his
> life was in danger, after the events of COS?  Canon
> doesn't tell us.  Now, either she hasn't, and my
> "magically compelled to save their life" theory
> isn't any good, OR she was trying to save his life
> and her efforts have gone unnoticed.  OR...maybe the
> person is compelled when all others who have a
> life-debt to that person are not present or their
> powers are incapacitated.  We don't even know if
> she's had the chance to feel compelled to save
> Harry...Snape's always been there.  It's late and
> I'm not making any more sense....  

No, I still think you're making sense.  As far as I
recall, Ginny hasn't been present during any of
Harry's other life-threatening moments, other than the
tasks he faced during the Triwizard Tournament.  She
certainly wasn't in the graveyard in GoF nor was she
in the Shrieking Shack in PoA.  I think she has not
yet had her chance to fufill her debt.  However, I see
the bond between her and Hermione growing and I think
Ginny will be spending more time with the trio in the
future (or at least with Harry and the twins if she
makes the Gryffindor team) so I think she will become
closer to the danger and, subsequently, will be in a
better position to have a chance to fufill her
life-debt to Harry.  I think Jo will tell us some more
about life-debts and their significance in future
novels.

> 
> ~Lilac (who loves Ginny, always wanted red hair, and
> has grown to love her own freckles splashed across
> her nose and cheeks and dotted on her arms.) 
> 

~Nicole (who married a guy with red hair and hopes to
have her own little pack of Weasleys someday.  :) )


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