Moaning Myrtle's house and Houses Mystery

Veronica ronib at mindspring.com
Mon Sep 30 18:20:53 UTC 2002


No: HPFGUIDX 44711

> <hickengruendler at y...> wrote:
> 
> The information about personality is offered to the student, who, 
> if he or she has other priorities than learning as much magic as 
> possible,  can then use it to contest the Hat's choice.
> 
> So Harry is offered Slytherin  as the House where he would learn 
> most, but has the option of rejecting it. 

I would have to disagree with that. My books are temporarily on loan 
(you could say I'm spreading the word), so I can't double-check this, 
but wasn't it Harry who brought up Slytherin in the first place, not 
the hat?

If I recall, and please correct me if I am wrong (but nicely, as I'm 
new around here), the hat was listing Harry's traits and 
characteristics when Harry began to think, "Not Slytherin!" The hat 
was only responding to that thought. As I remember, the hat was 
basically listing all the possibilities, not offering its decision 
for debate.

<hickengruendler at y...> wrote:
>  Neville would no doubt have learned more magic in Hufflepuff 
> (probably even Snape understands that you have to be patient 
> with the Huffles) but it seems Neville wanted to be a Gryffindor, 
> based on his family's expectations, and the Hat puts him there, 
> evidently with some reluctance. 
> 

My questions:

1) Other than the idea that Slytherins share information about Dark 
Magic with each other, how would students learn different things? 
They take the same classes, and since they often have classes with 
other house, surely they learn the same things.

2) Hufflepuffs are suppose to be just, loyal, patient, true, and hard 
workers. How does that get translated into dim and in need to 
patience from strict professors?

I found a strange site that takes personality types and compares them 
to Hogwarts houses. First you take Myers-Briggs types and separate 
them into four categories. Have a look at 
http://www.advisorteam.com/user/ktsintro1.asp.

Then this other site matches those categories with Hogwarts houses. 
http://keirsey.com/sortinghat.html.

(My "type" was matched with Hufflepuff, but in school I was a serious 
overachiver--in all the clubs, made top grades, won lots of academic- 
and activity-related scholarships--a *real* nerd! I would have 
considered myself either Gryffindor or Slytherin, but never 
Hufflepuff since folks tend to overlook the character traits 
represented there and focus more on this notion that Hufflepuffs are, 
well, not something to aspire to.) 

My point is that I believe house sorting must be based more on 
personality than intelligence, or even potential. 

Look at the characters we know the most about, espeically the Trio. 
Bravery is the main trait they all share. Intelligence, work ethics, 
morality, ambition: all these traits very greatly from character to 
character, so I think there must be a "deciding" trait for each house 
that determines placement. In the case of Gryffindor, it could be 
courage. As for the others, I will have to think about. Any 
suggestions?

Veronica
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