[HPforGrownups] Re: Voldemort & Lily (was: Whose prophecy?)

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No: HPFGUIDX 54708

At 21:25 02-04-03 +0000, Steve wrote:

Quite a lot, actually ;-)

I have been trying to discover the root of our disagreement (I don't really
think we are as far from each other as it might appear).

As far as I can see, it is in the conditions for the protection of Harry:

I claim that it was unwitting on Lily's behalf and that it was necessary
that Lily would otherwise have survived (because of the use of the word
'sacrifice' and to distinguish this case from the many others where mothers
died to Voldemort and his cronies protecting their kids with their bodies).

You believe that it was her defiance that did the trick (possibly with
some added conditions, e.g. a spell).

If I start with your position in this question, I can easily see the rest
of your position following quite logically, so no trouble there.

I have only one question left (the rest is answered by the mental
exercise I referred to above ;-).
You said:
>I never said kids were never attacked. I dispute how often
>the circumstances were close enough to Harry's to open the
>posibility for the same 'Love Shield' protection.

Now, what element(s) in the circumstances surrounding the
Lily/Harry situation do you believe distinguished them from
/all/ other situations?

It is (I hope ;-) clear that I believe it was the offer to
spare Lily that made the difference, but obviously that is
not what you believe. Being myself a parent, I cannot believe
that no other parents were willing to fight for the life of
their kids (the most horrible thing I could imagine is to
survive one of my kids - the thought itself is appalling).
Other mothers must have died crouching over their child,
protecting it with their bodies to the last second.

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