[HPforGrownups] Voldemort's wand (was Re: Wormtail's Wand)

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From: "Alex" <aesob at yahoo.com>
Subject: [HPforGrownups] Voldemort's wand (was Re: Wormtail's Wand)
huge snippage
> Maybe it really doesn't matter where it was. JKR puts it in Wormtail &
Voldemort's posession when they need it. But this > brings up another
problem...if that was the only wand that Wormtail had access to,
well...wizards seem to rely on their  wands for a lot of things on a _daily_
basis, but it seems that only a few spells come out of Voldemort's wand
before the Lily & James appear, so if this was the only wand that Wormtail
and Voldemort had during the _entire_ schoolyear, wouldn't more spells have
come from it? Especially if Wormtail had been using Voldemort's wand to
subdue Moody and Crouch Sr? Maybe Wormtail did have another wand, but wasn't
using it during the ceremony that brings Voldemort's body back?

Betty:
That's possible, but what shadow could, say, an emperius curse leave?  The
cruciatus curse leaves only screams, and ak produces a smoky shadow with the
person's characteristics.  Hmm...

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P.S., I think that the only reasons that Cedric is killed by Wormtail with
Voldemort's wand are (1) because Voldemort doesn't have the capability to
use his wand yet,
Betty:
Just one problem with this.  Frank Bryce was killed by Voldemort, with
Voldemort's wand, and he was presumably in that baby-like form in august,
since he *was* able to sit in a chair.
from GoF chapter 1:

    "And then the chair was facing Frank, and he saw what was sitting in it.
His walking stick fell to the floor with a clatter. He opened his mouth and
let out a scream. He was screaming so loudly that he never heard the words
the thing in the chair spoke as it raised a wand. There was a flash of green
light, a rushing sound, and Frank Bryce crumpled. He was dead before he hit
the floor."
Also, in Ch. 29...the dream...  Voldemort and Wormtail are alone with
Nagini...

    "Harry had left the owl's back... he was watching, now, as it fluttered
across the room, into a chair with its back to him. . . . There were two
dark shapes on the floor beside the chair
. . . both of them were stirring. . . .

    One was a huge snake . . . the other was a man ... a short, balding man,
a man with watery eyes and a pointed nose ... he was wheezing and sobbing on
the hearth rug. . . .

    "You are in luck, Wormtail," said a cold, high-pitched voice from the
depths of the chair in which the owl had landed. "You are very fortunate
indeed. Your blunder has not ruined everything. He is dead."

    "My Lord!" gasped the man on the floor. "My Lord, I am ... I am so
pleased . . . and so sorry. ..."

    "Nagini," said the cold voice, "you are out of luck. I will not be
feeding Wormtail to you, after all... but never mind, never mind . . . there
is still Harry Potter. ..."

    The snake hissed. Harry could see its tongue fluttering.

    "Now, Wormtail," said the cold voice, "perhaps one more little reminder
why I will not tolerate another blunder from you. ..."

    "My Lord ... no ... I beg you . . ."

    The tip of a wand emerged from around the back of the chair. It was
pointing at Wormtail.
    "Crucio!" said the cold voice.

Now, from that quote, it looks like Wormtail and Moldy Voldy are in the
midst of a torture session.  Voldy has not only used his wand in our
presence, but apparently was doing it before Harry saw it... "one *more*
little reminder..."

Aesob again...
so (2) Wormtail has to do it, because (3) Cedric needs to be present during
priori incantatem to (4) communcate to Harry to take his body back and to
(5) give Harry some closure with Cedric's death.

I think it was more a case of Voldy being incapable of walking.  We never
saw him move on his own from point to point until after he was re-embodied.
I have a feeling he was more baby-like in that little form than he'd been in
a long, long time.
Betty