Wormtail's Wand

[annemehr]

No: HPFGUIDX 54835

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Devika" <devika at s...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "plaidmouse" <PlaidMouse at k...> 
> wrote:
> >  <snip>
> > 
> > When animagi transform, their wands and robes transform with them.
> > Like when Sirius transforms into a dog, his robes and 
> wand "disappear"
> > and don't reappear until he transforms back into a human. 
> 
> 
> We don't know that wizards' wands transform with them when they turn 
> into their animal forms.

Annemehr:
True, we don't actually know, but to me it seems almost a certainty 
that they do.  It is no stretch to believe that the contents of a 
wizard's pockets transform right along with their clothes when they go 
into animagus form.  Even though Sirius does not have a wand, we have 
seen him, Peter, and McGonagall transform several times and never has 
*anything* fallen to the floor which had up until that moment been in 
their pockets.  In fact, now I think of it, Sirius did pull the Daily 
Prophet clipping out from his robes in the Shrieking Shack which 
apparently he had with him since before he escaped from Azkaban.  So I 
think that proves it -- it transformed with him when he escaped and 
swam to the mainland.  It couldn't have survived that swim in his 
*mouth*!  Anyway, animagi go from place to place in animal form (as 
McGonagall went to Privet Drive in PS/SS), and I can't imagine them 
wanting to do that without a wand.

<snip part about Sirius not having his wand anymore>

Devika wrote:
> The same principle holds for Peter.  When Peter is with Voldemort in 
> GoF, he uses Voldemort's wand, not his own.  In PoA, Peter doesn't 
> seem to have a wand either.  IIRC, he uses Lupin's wand, not his 
own, 
> to attack Ron and Crookshanks after Lupin transforms.  
> 
> I thought there was a JKR interview somewhere in which she said that 
> Peter left his wand behind when he transformed into a rat in his 
> confrontation with Sirius.  I could be wrong about this, though, 
> since I have no idea which interview it's from.  If anyone knows 
> about it, could you let me know?

Annemehr:
I don't know about this interview, but it does certainly seem that 
Peter hasn't had his wand since he faked his death.  If JKR said that, 
I think it was to say that, indeed, he was now wandless.  As it was 
conspicuously absent from the list of what was found of him after his 
death (bloody robes and a few "fragments," the largest of which was a 
finger), I had thought that perhaps the wand shattered in the blast.  
Maybe.  It would, I suppose, count as being "left behind" in that 
case.  I just don't think it says anything about whether an animagus 
*could* take his wand with him when he transforms.  I do think, as I 
said, that the point about Sirius having the clipping proves that they 
could.

Going off on a tangent that this reminded me of, does it seem to 
anyone that wizard pockets are, like the inside of the Ford Anglia, a 
bit bigger on the inside than they are on the outside?  Harry seems to 
stuff a lot into his, doesn't he?  I don't think even the Marauder's 
Map would fit easily into a normal pocket, and his wand is long enough 
that you would think it would always be falling out, wouldn't you?  
Then there are the bags of sweets and (?)dungbombs he had stuffed in 
there that day he was caught by Malfoy illegally in Hogsmeade.  I 
don't know, but it always seemed like a bit too much.  And of course, 
we have what's always in Hagrid's pockets...

Finally, Devika, I think your post about the similarities between 
Voldemort and Harry, and what they do or do not mean, pretty much says 
it all.  This leaves little for anyone to say in reply but "I agree," 
which we all know the Moderators frown upon! :) So, this may be why 
you don't get much response!

Annemehr
who agrees with Devikas Voldemort/Harry post, and who wasn't around 
yet the first time she posted it, anyway...