Command of the Phoenix?

[finwitch]

No: HPFGUIDX 54921

> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, alexpie at a... wrote:
> > ...  What if it is something demanded of Harry, and does not 
refer 
> > to a group?  The Order of the Phoenix could just as well mean the 
> > demand or request of the phoenix.  ..edited...
> >
> > Ba
> 
> bboy_mn:
> 
> I think it's a brilliant idea!
> 
> I think most of us assumed the the Order of the Phoenix was
> Dumbledore's 'old crowd'. That the Order was an organization 
assembled
> to fight Voldemort. BUT someone pointed out recently that all the
> other book titles represent challenges that Harry had to face; 
finding
> the Sorcerer's Stone, the Chamber of Secrets, Prisoner of Azkaban,
> Goblet of Fire. In one form or another these are things that, in a
> sense, oppose Harry. If Order of the Phoenix represented 
Dumbledore's
> group, they would be allies, and that would break the pattern. 
> 
> So, your idea of being ordered by the Phoenix, or the command of the
> Phoenix, or if I want to keep going with other ways of saying it, 
the
> Challenge of the Phoenix fits perfectly with the previous titles. 
> 
> The challenge could still come from or because of an ally, but it
> would be a challenge none the less. It would still be something dark
> and dangerous that Harry had to face.
 
Hmm... It could be the group, in which case Harry must face some test 
before being admitted to join in - a *hard* test. Command of Phoenix -
Fawkes most likely - that fits, too. This test involves obeying what 
ever the phoenix tells you to do...

> Another thought that I had, but it goes against the theme of the
> titles representing challenges that Harry has to face, is related to
> "The Order of the British Empire" which is an award or honor given 
by
> the British government to citizens who have served the country in 
some
> outstanding way. JKR was just awarded 'The Order of the British
> Empire'; talk about foreshadowing.
> 
> http://www.vvaa.org.au/ord-be.htm
> 
> But like I said, I don't see anyway to make that represent a 
challenge
> Harry has to face.

Well, wizards have "Order of Merlin" for award, so Order of Phoenix 
might not be one, as such has not been mentioned yet - Harry and Ron 
gained "special award" for their actions against basilisk and Diary!
Tom Riddle - if it's official award, I don't see why Dumbledore Order 
of Phoenix isn't mentioned in Dumbledore's titles...

-- Finwitch