[HPforGrownups] The JKR interview on the DVD: SHIP AND Shipping Mentality

Eileen lucky_kari at yahoo.ca
Tue Apr 15 15:37:38 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 55362

 --- heidit at netbox.com wrote: 
> But for those who believe that in early 2000, JKR
> made it clear to everyone 
> that there would never be any H/Hr romance, this
> interview should be a bit of 
> an issue/bone of consternation (unless you read it
> as "Ron is interested in 
> Hermione and Hermione is interested in Ron and Harry
> is also interested in 
> Ron...").

As someone who believes that JKR made it very clear to
everyone in early 2000 that there would never be any
H/Hr romance, the interview brought a smile to my
face, since it destroyed an H/Hr line of speculation
from late 2002. (Yes, I'm an R/Hr reprobate.)

Everything has to be taken in context. Remember the
context of this interview. She's talking about what
Christopher Columbus did in the movie with the
shipping situation. 

Now, when Columbus gave his infamous interview, the
overall response in the fandom was that Columbus
wasn't JKR, and if he shipped Ron and Hermione, that
didn't mean JKR did. I know that a few more subtle
H/Hers didn't take that line, but you must admit that
was the widespread response. I keep a close eye on the
FAP shipping threads, because, being me, I like to
know what the fandom trends are. 

So, what JKR said here is that she endorses Columbus's
view of the shipping. 

As an R/Her, I'm obviously delighted.

But then, not too much. You see, I don't primarily
ship R/Hr because I like it, though I do moderately. I
ship it because that's what I see in canon. I see NO
indication of H/Hr in canon. Absolutely none, and
believe me, I've looked.

Well, I don't, and you do, and what does that mean?
Nothing, I would think. The fact that so many people
see H/Hr does not mean it's there. Neither does the
fact that so many people don't see it mean it's not
there.

But, here's the problem, there is a feeling present in
many H/Hr posts including your own that R/Hers are
arrogant in refusing to consider any possibility than
their own ship. After all, H/Hers recognize that there
is R/Hr indications in canon. Why can't the other side
return the favour?

Well, because we don't see it. It's not a matter of
arrogance. It's the fact that we honestly do NOT see
it.  And, if we take it as assumed in canon
speculation, that's because we've made an honest
decision to assume it. I really don'tt see what is so
wrong with that.

After all, we do the same thing in other realms of
speculation. I have made a honest decision to assume
that Magic Dishwasher is not at all indicated by
canon. I am 100% certain that there will be no Magic
Dishwasher in the upcoming books. Similarly, I am 100%
certain that there will be no H/Hr in the upcoming
books.

Is that somehow an invalid assumption, because H/Hers
would disagree with it?

Eileen

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