SHIPping Attitudes
derannimer
susannahlm at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 15 16:15:44 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 55367
Eileen, who is probably my favorite R/H SHIPper, wrote:
>You see, I don't primarily
>ship R/Hr because I like it, though I do moderately. I
>ship it because that's what I see in canon. I see NO
>indication of H/Hr in canon. Absolutely none, and
>believe me, I've looked.
>But, here's the problem, there is a feeling present in
>many H/Hr posts including your own that R/Hers are
>arrogant in refusing to consider any possibility than
>their own ship. After all, H/Hers recognize that there
>is R/Hr indications in canon. Why can't the other side
>return the favour?
>Well, because we don't see it. It's not a matter of
>arrogance. It's the fact that we honestly do NOT see
>it. And, if we take it as assumed in canon
>speculation, that's because we've made an honest
>decision to assume it. I really don't see what is so
>wrong with that.
Oh, Eileen, *nothing.* There is nothing wrong with that. There is
nothing wrong with saying: "I plain don't see any evidence for H/H."
What there *is* something wrong with saying, and what a lot of
R/Hers--though obviously not often on *this* list--*are* saying,
is: "I plain don't see any evidence for H/H and the only reason that
you do is that you are a wishfully thinking idiot."
See, there's nothing wrong with saying you see no evidence for a
theory, as long as you acknowledge that someone else *does* see it,
and that they aren't necessarily doing so from sheer intellectual
dishonesty. (See Angua's recent assertion that one could only be H/H
from--paraphrase--a "stubborn romanticizing and eroticizing impulse.")
Now, obviously, this sort of thing goes on all the time in all
SHIPping discussions--but I truly do think that the R/Hers are worse
this way, largely because R/H is the more popular SHIP, and because
GOF was a very R/H book.
But then, I might only think that because I'm FITD-cum-H/H.
<shrugs>
What can I say? In this darn SHIPping conversation, we are none of us
free from our biases.
Derannimer (who would like to point out that Eileen herself has
never, to Derannimer's recollection, once insulted H/H, or H/Hers)
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