Molly & Arthur's ages

[darrin_burnett]

No: HPFGUIDX 55698

What was Hagrid doing?????
> 
> He was working at Hogwarts. You are certainly entitled to your 
> opinion, but I think you will find a majority of people believe 
that 
> upon being expelled, Hagrid worked as gamekeeper-in-training until 
he 
> recieved the appointment full time. 
> 
> Me: You may be right that most people believe that, but the 
question 
> is, what does JKR believe?  Are we to believe that somebody 
expelled 
> for MURDER will be allowed to remain on school grounds?  Hagrid may 
> not have been sent to Azkaban, as far as we know, but the Hogwarts 
> governers would have had Dippet sacked if he allowed Hagrid to stay 
> at Hogwarts.  Hagrid's wand was snapped, and Fudge makes reference 
to 
> Hagrid's record being against him, so his expulsion was likely an 
> official, carefully monitored procedure - I do not think that 
Dippet 
> would allow it to be undermined in that way.
> 
> Bill


What Bill said. The reference you were looking for, Steve, is in 
PS/SS UK page 43, when Hagrid just picks up Harry at the Hut-on-the-
Rock and says that Dumbledore let him "stay on" as gamekeeper.

One problem. Dumbledore wasn't Headmaster and the Lexicon Timeline 
tells us he wasn't Headmaster until the 1970s. The Timeline ALSO says 
that Hagrid started in 1943, so, there's a problem with my argument 
as well.

Hagrid was expelled after a student died. Lupin, a full-fledged 
teacher, had to resign after the owls came in complaining. I have a 
hard time believing that Hagrid would get a sanctioned job where he 
had full access to the Forbidden Forest, so soon after everyone 
believed his fascination with creatures killed a student. I don't 
call it murder. More like neglect leading to a death. Even Dumbledore 
didn't have that kind of clout (and this was before he beat 
Grundewald.)

At LEAST until Moaning Myrtle and Tom Riddle's classes graduated, 
you'd want to keep Hagrid out of sight.

It is possible that Dumbledore got Hagrid some work on the sly, where 
he was away from school, perhaps DEEP into the Forbidden Forest. Even 
then, Dumbledore might have realized that having someone on good 
terms with the centaurs would someday come in handy.

But to me, it is entirely reasonable that Molly and Arthur could have 
gone to school in the mid-1950s-early 1960s and not had much dealings 
with Hagrid. Remember, Molly doesn't say she doesn't KNOW Hagrid, 
only that he wasn't the gamekeeper.

After all, besides the HRH trio, how many students actually 
interacted with Hagrid before he became the Care of Magical Creatures 
teacher? Harry has a special connection to him because Hagrid was the 
one who came and got him from the Dursleys, and Ron and Hermione 
follow along with Harry.

Darrin
-- Or maybe this isn't Hagrid's first trip to the land of Giants?