SHIPping Attitudes

[pennylin]

No: HPFGUIDX 55721

Hi all --

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "derannimer" <susannahlm at y...> 
wrote:
> See, there's nothing wrong with saying you see no evidence for a 
> theory, as long as you acknowledge that someone else *does* see it, 
> and that they aren't necessarily doing so from sheer intellectual 
> dishonesty. (See Angua's recent assertion that one could only be 
H/H from--paraphrase--a "stubborn romanticizing and eroticizing 
impulse.")

Angua responded:
<<<<In the interest of clarity, I'd like to point out that I did not say 
that one could only "be H/H" out of such an impulse. I made a more 
limited assertion -- that to deny that Hermione's feelings for Harry 
in GoF are those of a "very platonic friend" can only be prompted by 
such an impulse.  It is a denial, after all, of quite a bit of canon 
evidence as well as a direct assertion by the author.>>>>>>>>

Actually, we can't know what Hermione's feelings are for Harry in GoF (or in any of the other canon) because we don't have access to Hermione's feelings or thoughts.  

One also need not "deny" a direction assertion of the author to believe that Hermione's feelings for Harry might not be entirely platonic as of GoF either..........JKR stated that Harry and Hermione *are* platonic friends [in GoF]."  That is certainly true, and I don't know how anyone could deny it.  We have Harry's POV, so we would *know* if they were other than platonic in GoF.  They were not.  Again, I've always believed the "they are platonic" comment to be applicable to GoF only, given the use of present tense, and now that we've heard JKR say that "certain feelings" between the three of them will come into play, I'm even more convinced that the "platonic friends" comment was as limited and narrow in time scope as I've always believed.    

<<<<If anyone has any interest in my personal opinion (and I don't see 
why you would), I believe that there are a variety of reasons one 
might want Hermione to end up with Harry.  An early romanticizing 
impulse and a negative reaction to the character of Ron or JKR's 
portrayal of the R/H dynamic would probably be the two most common 
reasons.  Others would be a distrust of the "obvious," a preference 
for tragedy over comedy, or even something as trivial as a preference 
for brunette over red hair, or for Radcliffe over Grint.>>>>>>>>

You left off a belief that Harry and Hermione are quite well-suited for one another, just to name one other example (and a corrollary belief, at least in some cases, that Ron and Hermione are particularly ill-suited).  

Curious the whole "tragedy over comedy" line though.  I must say I don't understand that.  Why must H/H end up being "tragic" in order to come off?  And ....well.......I .........er.......don't find Ron and Hermione's interactions to be particularly comic either so there you go.  :--)

Penny

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