[HPforGrownups] wizardry and mugglery

manawydan manawydan at ntlworld.com
Mon Apr 21 18:03:28 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 55785

Fandulin wrote:

>All very good points.  It seems cold-hearted, but then again, wizards
>don't ask muggledom for help with problems particular to them, i.e.
>Voldemort.  I was just thinking that young wizards, especially those
>from muggle backgrounds would sometimes see the chaos and sadness of
>the muggle world and wonder if they should be doing something.  I

That's an interesting point. I'm sure that it's not an uncommon sentiment -
if a muggle born wizard has someone terminally ill in their family, for
example, would they use magical means to heal them? What would the MoM do in
those circumstances? Is there a degree of relationship that's ok to do that,
but further out (granny's neighbour's hairdresser's cat...) then it would
attract the attention of Arthur Weasley and his Muggle Protection squad?

>mean face it, outside of the threat of dark wizards, the WW is a very
>comfortable and safe place to be (with the exception of dangerous
>activities they gleefully pursue, such as quidditch).  Perhaps they

I wonder. The more I think about it, the more I feel that the WW can be a
very dark and sinister place. Conspiracies and rebellions by dark magicians
arise at regular intervals. Although magic allows you to make changes in
reality, it doesn't absolve you from having to earn a living. Defence
against the dark arts is taught to children _as a matter of course_ in a
time (supposedly) of peace. There are all manner of magical creatures
around, some of them decidedly dangerous. And the whole is ruled by an
unaccountable bureaucracy. whose bona fides are well dodgy.

>would begin to wonder where their loyalties should primarily lie,
>with the WW or the human race.  Then again, once they enter the WW,
>wizards and witches probably don't have much contact with the
>muggles, and may simply forget or not realize the problems and
>struggles that most of the world has to put up with.  I do agree that
>if their interference was discovered, it would be an extremely
>slippery slope from then on.

Though at least some wizards form relationships (and therefore must have
some means of meeting and interacting ) with muggles. There must be some
sort of ethical tuition (i surmise) as part of the Hogwarts curriculum to
guide the students as to what is and is not allowable.

It's interesting to note that there's no suggestion in canon that dark
wizards have ever conspired with dark _muggles_.

Cheers

Ffred

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