[HPforGrownups] Re: Dumbledore had a number of useful spies
izaskun granda
yutu at wanadoo.es
Tue Apr 22 22:58:53 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 55915
galadriel1 at m... writes:
In Chapter 10, The Marauder's Map, a number of faculty are
discussing James and Sirius' relationship in Hogwarts days and the
secret - keeper that Lily and James chose. Fudge
states, "Dumbledore, who was working tirelessly against You Know
Who, had a number of useful spies. One of them tipped him off, and
he alerted James and Lily at once."
JessaDrow at a... wrote:
Lupin would be my guess, even though Black didn't trust him, James
and/or Lily may have.
Rosebeth wrote:
As much as I like Lupin and would want him to have a herioc role. I
have to ask, how would Lupin know what LV was planning? IMHO, Snape
is the best guess because he would have access to LV's plans.
Barb:
In addition, it is clear in PoA that Lupin was in fact out of the
loop. I'm still interested in learning what he was really up to
during that time, as he seems to have become disconnected enough
from the others (Lily, James, Peter, Sirius) for him to be
considered a viable suspect for traitor. Many werewolves were said
to be turning to Voldemort, and while it could have been Peter who
put this into the others' heads in order to throw suspicion off
himself, the other three may also have thought of this themselves,
without any prompting from Peter, the actual traitor (which would
have made Peter rub his hands gleefully, no doubt). Perhaps he was
working with the originator of the Wolfsbane Potion, to try to
perfect the concoction? (You need a guinea pig for these things.)
Who knows?
We do know, however, that Snape was in fact working as a spy for
Dumbledore. Regardless of his motivation for telling him of the
plot against the Potters (and whoever it was, they weren't THAT much
in the know, as the spy didn't know the identity of the traitor), it
seems most likely to have been Snape, until we find out more about
these shadowy 'spies.'
Other possibilities are somewhat slim at this point. There's
Mundungus Fletcher, spoken of as part of the 'old crowd' (which
could mean anything, but it does remind one of "Smiley's People"--or
at least it reminds me of that), plus Arabella Figg. The
interesting thing about these people is that what little information
we have about them means that they are every bit as disreputable as
Snape, the scourge of non-Slytherins since he took his teaching
post.
Fletcher, we find out near the beginning of GoF, was trying to put
in a ridiculous claim for an elaborate tent damaged during the QWC,
despite the fact that Arthur saw him sleeping under his cloak
propped up on sticks.
JKR said something like "well-spotted!" to someone who asked whether
Arabella is the same as Mrs. Figg and everything we know about Mrs.
Figg paints her as an extremely unpleasant person (although how much
of that was for the Dursleys' benefit, as they certainly wouldn't
want someone PLEASANT taking care of Harry, remains to be seen).
I will rashly predict that each and every one of Dumbledore's spies
will prove to have either an abrasive personality and/or a checkered
past, as do the above (Snape, Fletcher, Figg). It would be entirely
fitting for people like this to be fighting for the good guys, and
bring us back to JKR's original message of choices being the
important thing, which is something I hope SHE doesn't forget.
Now me:
Well, we are confusing colaborators with spies. I mean, probably Arabella Figg, Mundungus and the old gang were indeed fighting Voldemort with DD, but a spy is someone who can access the world of the DE, that means, a former death eater, like Snape, or someone very close to a real DE and who can get information from him/her. Narcissa Malfoy could be a good guess, but still, this is all guess-work, we'll know soon enough. Anyway, I think we must keep all this in mind, the old gang fought, or protected, the spies were working inside the group of DE, and Snape is not the only one, so I keep thinking he went to contact the rest of them, who they are, I don't know, maybe someone we haven't heard of yet, or maybe someone we know but don't suspect.
Izaskun
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