[HPforGrownups] Re: Dumbledore had a number of useful spies

izaskun granda yutu at wanadoo.es
Tue Apr 22 22:58:53 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 55915




  galadriel1 at m... writes:

  In Chapter 10, The Marauder's Map, a number of faculty are 
  discussing James and Sirius' relationship in Hogwarts days and the 
  secret - keeper that Lily  and James chose.  Fudge 
  states, "Dumbledore, who was working tirelessly against You Know 
  Who, had a number of useful spies.  One of them tipped him off, and 
  he alerted James and Lily at once."  

  JessaDrow at a... wrote:

  Lupin would be my guess, even though Black didn't trust him, James 
  and/or Lily may have. 

  Rosebeth wrote:

  As much as I like Lupin and would want him to have a herioc role.  I 
  have to ask, how would Lupin know what LV was planning?  IMHO, Snape 
  is the best guess because he would have access to LV's plans.

  Barb:

  In addition, it is clear in PoA that Lupin was in fact out of the 
  loop.  I'm still interested in learning what he was really up to 
  during that time, as he seems to have become disconnected enough 
  from the others (Lily, James, Peter, Sirius) for him to be 
  considered a viable suspect for traitor.  Many werewolves were said 
  to be turning to Voldemort, and while it could have been Peter who 
  put this into the others' heads in order to throw suspicion off 
  himself, the other three may also have thought of this themselves, 
  without any prompting from Peter, the actual traitor (which would 
  have made Peter rub his hands gleefully, no doubt).  Perhaps he was 
  working with the originator of the Wolfsbane Potion, to try to 
  perfect the concoction?  (You need a guinea pig for these things.)  
  Who knows?  

  We do know, however, that Snape was in fact working as a spy for 
  Dumbledore.  Regardless of his motivation for telling him of the 
  plot against the Potters (and whoever it was, they weren't THAT much 
  in the know, as the spy didn't know the identity of the traitor), it 
  seems most likely to have been Snape, until we find out more about 
  these shadowy 'spies.'

  Other possibilities are somewhat slim at this point.  There's 
  Mundungus Fletcher, spoken of as part of the 'old crowd' (which 
  could mean anything, but it does remind one of "Smiley's People"--or 
  at least it reminds me of that), plus Arabella Figg.  The 
  interesting thing about these people is that what little information 
  we have about them means that they are every bit as disreputable as 
  Snape, the scourge of non-Slytherins since he took his teaching 
  post.  

  Fletcher, we find out near the beginning of GoF, was trying to put 
  in a ridiculous claim for an elaborate tent damaged during the QWC, 
  despite the fact that Arthur saw him sleeping under his cloak 
  propped up on sticks.  

  JKR said something like "well-spotted!" to someone who asked whether 
  Arabella is the same as Mrs. Figg and everything we know about Mrs. 
  Figg paints her as an extremely unpleasant person (although how much 
  of that was for the Dursleys' benefit, as they certainly wouldn't 
  want someone PLEASANT taking care of Harry, remains to be seen).

  I will rashly predict that each and every one of Dumbledore's spies 
  will prove to have either an abrasive personality and/or a checkered 
  past, as do the above (Snape, Fletcher, Figg).  It would be entirely 
  fitting for people like this to be fighting for the good guys, and 
  bring us back to JKR's original message of choices being the 
  important thing, which is something I hope SHE doesn't forget.

  Now me:
  Well, we are confusing colaborators with spies. I mean, probably Arabella Figg, Mundungus and the old gang were indeed fighting Voldemort with DD, but a spy is someone who can access the world of the DE, that means, a former death eater, like Snape, or someone very close to a real DE and who can get information from him/her. Narcissa Malfoy could be a good guess, but still, this is all guess-work, we'll know soon enough. Anyway, I think we must keep all this in mind, the old gang fought, or protected, the spies were working inside the group of DE, and Snape is not the only one, so I keep thinking he went to contact the rest of them, who they are, I don't know, maybe someone we haven't heard of yet, or maybe someone we know but don't suspect. 
  Izaskun 



  





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