Freindship outside trio -Draco Malfoy - Snape/Black

[darrin_burnett]

No: HPFGUIDX 56160

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Kelly Grosskreutz" <ivanova at i...> 
wrote:
> darrin_burnett:
> 
> >For this parallel to work, Draco is going to have to do something to
> >earn the trust of Dumbledore, just as Snape did. And it's going to
> >have to be big. If Dumbledore approves, then Harry will grudgingly go
> >along, but not before.
> 

Kelly: 
> Not necessarily.  I see Harry making more and more judgments on his own
> without necessarily going to Dumbledore about them first.  He has already
> shown this propensity.  *IF* Harry and Draco ever work together, Harry will
> trust/not trust Harry on Harry's own terms.  I don't see Dumbledore being
> involved in this.  

The parallel was: Snape is to Sirius as Draco is to Harry. 

Snape and Sirius only shook hands after Dumbledore essentially ordered 
them to, and they are adults. I really don't see Harry working with Draco 
unless Dumbledore says it's necessary to the cause.

So, for the parallel to work, Dumbledore would have to get involved.


Also, if we want to discuss parallels, then Draco would
> have to have a huge reason to place his trust in Dumbledore, as Snape did.
> I don't see Draco doing this, either.  If Harry and Draco work together, I
> feel it will be a short-lived alliance strictly on their own terms and
> probably only because they find some benefit in it.  Unless Draco makes a
> radical change for the better, and from what little I've seen of J. K.
> interviews, it doesn't sound like they will be working together in any case.
> 

Like I said, the series needs villains. Harry has got Ron, Hermione, the entire 
Weasley clan (save perhaps Percy), Sirius, Lupin, Hagrid, and the rest of the 
old crowd, not to mention all of Gryffindor and maybe the ghosts of his 
parents.

We'd need to see a definite need Draco could fill before Harry decides to trust 
him enough to do something without Dumbledore.

For me, I'd rather see Draco grow up to be like father, like son.  We still need 
bad guys.


> I find myself anticipating more and more what will happen to Draco.  I feel
> he is at a very pivotal moment.  To this point, he has not done anything
> truly evil.  Yes, he has been nasty, but to the best of our knowledge he has
> not been actively involved in DE activities, if only because Lucius hasn't
> allowed him to.  

Draco, I'd argue, has evil in his head.  It's not just "picking on" Muggle-borns. 
It's openly advocating their slaughter. Big difference. 

His views are Lucius' views at this point. I'd agree with that. But,  I'd also argue 
that by age 14, you should be forming that path. I don't know what is magic, 
pardon the pun, about age 15 being the turning point. Draco seems already 
on the path to me.

Now, something could DRIVE him from that path, much the same way 
something might have knocked Snape from that path.  

But I think he has had time to stray from it on his own.

Perhaps this is where Narcissa would come into play. My own fun little theory 
is that Narcissa has Muggle blood and has kept it from Lucius. Perhaps Draco 
wouldn't be so quick to advocate his mother getting killed. (Or, like Tom 
Riddle, would be willing to kill her himself.)

Darrin 
-- Straying From the Path would be a good name for a band