[HPforGrownups] Re: Sorry. The Sudden Movement.

[Kelly Grosskreutz]

No: HPFGUIDX 56275

From:  Me

> Unless there are certain DE's that all of them knew, and others
> that were always present but whose identities were unknown, which
> would explain how Snape and Pettigrew could both be DE's but Snape
> not know that Pettigrew was the traitor.

From:  Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)

Yes, but how did so many DE prisoners in Azkaban know that
Pettigrew was the one who had led the Dark Lord to the
Potters / his dis-embodiment, in order to curse his name
in their ravings, so that Sirius could tell us about it?

From:  Me

But do we know they say Peter's name when they are cursing him?  Here's the
quote from PoA:

"You haven't been hiding from *me* for twelve years," said Black.  "You've
been hiding from Voldemort's old supporters.  I heard things in Azkaban,
Peter...They all think you're dead, or you'd have to answer to them....I've
heard them screaming all sorts of things in their sleep.  Sounds like they
think the double-crosser double-crossed them."

The DE's knew that someone from Dumbledore's side had turned and was now
working for them.  This person had given Voldemort the information that took
him to the Potters'.  The DE's in Azkaban are furious with this person
because they think he was really a double agent, saying he was working for
Voldemort but really working for Dumbledore.  Sirius *knows* the identity of
the person they are talking about because he knows who betrayed the Potters'
to Voldemort.  Even if they never said his name, Sirius would still be able
to figure it out.

Another possibility is that the DE's in Azkaban were some of the ones who
knew Peter was a DE, and Snape was just one of the ones who didn't know
Peter's identity.  Yet another possibility is that Voldemort had already
begun to wonder about Snape's loyalty and therefore didn't entrust him with
the knowledge of Peter's defection.  It even could have happened that
Voldemort believed Snape to be working for him the whole war, but had him
spying on Dumbledore (making him the true double agent).  If Voldemort was
employing Snape as a spy, he wouldn't tell him about Peter in case
Dumbledore tumbled onto Snape's duplicity and tortured the information out
of Snape.

Kelly Grosskreutz
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