Why not Break Eands &Thoughts on Neville?

Kristen jkscherme at adelphia.net
Fri Aug 1 00:49:15 UTC 2003


No: HPFGUIDX 74512

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboy_mn at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Kristen" <jkscherme at a...> 
wrote:
>(snip)

> > > Me (sarcasticmuppet):
> > > ... a wand is something very dear and personal to a witch or 
> > > wizard.  Even in the heat of battle, neither side would even 
think
> > > of destroying their enemy's wand. It's just dishonorable.  It's 
> > > sort of like an unspoken code of honor among  wizards. ...
> > > 
> > > --Ashley--
> 
> > Kristen:
> > 
> > Do we really know if there is a code of honor regarding wands? 
> > 
> 
> bboy_mn:
> 
> Code of Honor? ...but of course. Section 3, Paragraph 4, Clause 2 
of... 
> 
> The Fictional Hero's Code of Conduct - 
> 
> Section 3 - Proper Conduct for Engaging the Toadies, Minions, and 
Evil
> Hordes of an Evil Overlord in Combat (humor).
> 
> Clause 2 - Never take the weapon of an unconscious or dead toadie,
> minion, or member of the evil horde. If you do, you'll completely
> screw up the plot.
> 
> This doesn't just happen in the HP world, this is a universal plot
> device that occurs in almost every movies, videos, and books. 
> 
> It's similar to the Toadie, Minions, and Evil Horde's Code of 
Conduct
> Sec 3, Para 1, Clause 1 ...
> 
> "When in a group, never attack the hero en masse, alway attack one 
at
> a time, each in turn until such time as all Minions are defeated or 
it
>  becomes necessary to retreat."
> 
> Amendment A.) One minion may seek up behind the hero while he is
> fighting another minion, and club him on the head, if the plot
> requires that the hero be captured.
> 
> Well, I am being a little stupid with this 'Hero's Code of Conduct'
> thing, but it does have some merit. We see this in movies all the
> time, so it's not that unusual of a plot device. 
> 
> > Kristen:
> > 
> > ..., I'm dying to find out how Neville does when he obtains "his" 
> > own wand. ... this boy is going to show some new attitude and 
> > leadership. ... I think his grandmother knows about the prophecy 
> > .... Turning Neville into bumbling, inept, lack luster wizard is 
> > certainly a good disguise. ...edited...  At any rate, Neville's 
DADA
> > skills have to improve once he has a new wand...unless someone 
> > curses it...oh, dear!
> 
> 
> bboy_mn:
> OK, I admit it, I'm just rambling here. In another thread I 
speculated
> that Neville might surprise us by coming back with a Fawkes Phoenix
> Feather wand. Wouldn't that be an interesting twist to the plot.
> 
> As far as his grandmother, she really irritates me. I have 
speculated
> that they might let Harry out of Privet Drive for an afternoon, day,
> or weekend now and then, rather than leave him alone until two weeks
> before the end of summer holiday. One good day trip would be Harry,
> Ron, and Hermione going to Neville's house to have a joint
> Harry/Neville birthday party. I envision, Grandma Longbottom 
starting
> to put Neville down again over tea, at which time our heroic trio 
take
> it upon themselves to set grandma straight about Neville. I think
> grandma might be surprised to hear how well and how bravely Neville
> fought against the DE when they were out numbered 2-to-1. 
> 
> Addition, rambling thought.
> Since Neville crammed Hermione's wand into the Death Eater's eye and
> saved Harry, does that count as a 'life saving', and therefore, a 
life
> debt?
> 
> Sorry, I know that didn't add much, but it was fun.
> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> bboy_mn

Me: madeyesgal

Oh, dear... I really do need to begin some extra curricular reading. 
I guess I'm a bit more like Ron in that area than Hermoine. I've been 
hanging out in the HP books 1-5 as my only real source of 
information. (read them for the 1st time 4 weeks ago) Thanks for 
setting me straight on the wand issue.

As for Neville's grandmother...well, I believe she's much 
misunderstood. I still stand by my theory that she's deliberately 
turned Neville into the self-conscious, bumbling, inept and forgetful 
boy he is. I don't believe his parents were tortured in order to find 
out where LV was. I believe they were protecting Neville. It's going 
to take JKR's story telling in books 6 & 7 to convince me otherwise. 
Neville,in spite of his grandmother's best efforts, is exhibiting 
exactly why the Sorting Hat put him into Gryffindor. How does the 
quote go? "A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet...?" 
Neville's smelling sweeter all the time!

(BTW this is coming from a grandmother...I would do anything, 
ANYTHING, to save the lives of my grandchildren. I chose to retire 
early to become their daycare provider, so I live with them on a 
daily basis. If it were in my power to protect them with magic, I 
would without hesitation. If you look at Neville's "gran" from her 
point of view, you might be willing to cut her some slack.)

madeyesgal





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