[HPforGrownups] Ron as a Prefect ( was : SHIPs)
Erika L.
erikal at magma.ca
Fri Aug 1 05:10:08 UTC 2003
No: HPFGUIDX 74553
Erika (Wolfraven) wrote:
>After Umbridge's speech when
>everyone is dismissed from the hall, the >Prefects are expected to
>lead the first-year students. Hermione >must remind Ron of this since
>he "had obviously forgotten". He proceeds >to address the first-years
>as "Midgets" and when Hermione berated >him, he protests "Well, they
>are, they're titchy" (Canadian ed 194). >I'd say a lack of respect for
>younger students, particularly a group of >already nervous eleven-year-
>olds qualifies as an example of Ron being >less than exemplary as a
>Prefect.
Del replied:
>1. This scene takes place right at the >beginning of the year. Ron is
>just beginning to learn how to be a >Prefect. He had his first Prefect
>meeting barely a few hours before on board >the train.
>2. He never expected to become a Prefect, >unlike Hermione. This all
>came as a surprise and I guess he never >seriously took time to ponder
>about what being a Prefect meant.
>3. The only Prefect he knew closely was... >Percy ! And we all know he
>doesn't want anything to do with Percy's >behaviour. So I guess he
>could unconsciously be trying to be >exactly the opposite of Percy as
>a Prefect. While Hermione, on the other >hand...
Shaun Hately also replied:
>Ron calling the first-years midgets could >very easily have been a way to
>try and get them laughing - an extremely >good way to deal with nervous
>11 years olds who are likely to be fairly >intimidated by you. It's not
>something everybody could do - I'd have >mucked it up - but if you've got
>a good and obvious sense of humour, which >I think Ron might, it really
>can work well.
>In some senses, it is important for a >prefect to respect younger
>students - but you also need to help these >kids establish their place in
>the school heirarchy. They need to feel >they belong to the school (and
>to their House) as quickly as possible. >Ron, as a prefect, teasing them
>can help with that process. It's a fine >line - it can backfire - but I
>think it's quite unfair to view Ron as >disrespectful of the first years.
Okay, perhaps I am being a bit hard on Ron. I admit I have a tendency to do that.
Still, Ron's not known for being especially sensitive about other people's emotional needs, so I have trouble buying that he was trying to make ther first years feel better. My expereince of school is that first years always come off as a bit of a joke to the older students. This was certainly the case in high school. And even in university, I remember it being comical when one saw a first year wandering around campus with a map in his/her hand looking generally dazed and bewildered. However, I do take Del's point that Ron's only just become Prefect by this point, so I suppose he would need time to settle into the role.
Shaun Hately also said:
>A good prefect should
>*not* be obvious. You shouldn't be able to >easily point to the things
>that make somebody a good prefect.
>But you will certainly know *very* rapidly >if there's a bad one around.
>If Ron was a bad prefect, I would have >expected to see real signs of
>that in the text, considering his close >proximity to Harry. The fact we
>don't see any signs of him being a bad >prefect really does indicate a
>high likelihood that he is at least >competent.
Again, I was not trying to imply that Ron was exactly a bad Prefect-- certainly I'm not comparing him to Draco. Draco abuses the authority he's given; Ron in contrast seems reluctant to use his at all. But then,as has been pointed out, the only instances we see involve Fred and George. I guess we'll have to wait and see in the next book if Ron can step up to the plate now that the twins are out of the picture.
Erika (Wolfraven)
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